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Re: Show HN: LemonSlice – Upgrade your voice agents to real-time video

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Post by jonsoft »

I asked the Spanish tutor if he/it was familiar with the terms seseo[0] and ceceo[1] and he said it wasn't, which surprised me. Ideally it would be possible to choose which Spanish dialect to practise as mainland Spain pronunciation is very different to Latin America. In general it didn't convince me it was really hearing how I was pronouncing words, an important part of learning a language. I would say the tutor is useful for intermediate and advanced speakers but not beginners due to this and the speed at which he speaks.

At one point subtitles written in pseudo Chinese characters were shown; I can send a screenshot if this is useful.

The latency was slightly distracting, and as others have commented the NVIDIA Personaplex demos [2] are very impressive in this regard.

In general, a very positive experience, thank you.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonological_history_of_Spanis... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonological_history_of_Spanis... [2] https://research.nvidia.com/labs/adlr/personaplex/

Re: Show HN: LemonSlice – Upgrade your voice agents to real-time video

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Post by bbor »

givinguflac wrote: post #80

While the tech is impressive, from an end user interacting with this perspective, I want nothing to do with it, and I can’t support it. Neat as a one off but destructive imho. It’s bad enough some companies are doing AI-only interviews. I could see this used to train employees, interview people, replace people at call centers… it’s the next step towards an absolute nightmare. Automated phone trees are bad enough. The…

Don't be naive -- if I don't make the Torment Nexus, someone else will ;)

Re: Show HN: LemonSlice – Upgrade your voice agents to real-time video

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Post by knowitnone3 »

snowmaker wrote: post #78

I made a golden retriever you can talk to using Lemon Slice: https://lemonslice.com/hn/agent_5af522f5042ff0a8 Having a real-time video conversation with an AI is a trippy feeling. Talk about a "feel the AGI moment", it really does feel like the computer has come alive.

great. you'll never have to talk to another human being ever again

Re: Show HN: LemonSlice – Upgrade your voice agents to real-time video

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Post by andrew-w »

jonsoft wrote: post #81

I asked the Spanish tutor if he/it was familiar with the terms seseo[0] and ceceo[1] and he said it wasn't, which surprised me. Ideally it would be possible to choose which Spanish dialect to practise as mainland Spain pronunciation is very different to Latin America. In general it didn't convince me it was really hearing how I was pronouncing words, an important part of learning a language. I would say the tutor is…

Thanks for the feedback. The current avatars use a STT-LLM-TTS pipeline (rather than true speech-to-speech), which limits nuanced understanding of pronunciations. Speech-to-speech models should solve this problem. (The ones we've tried so far have counterintuitively not been fast enough.)

Re: Show HN: LemonSlice – Upgrade your voice agents to real-time video

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Post by andrew-w »

sbarre wrote: post #79
sid-the-kid wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And, just like that, Max Headroom is back: https://lemonslice.com/try/agent_ccb102bdfc1fcb30

That.. is not Max Headroom.

I wonder how it would come across with the right voice. We're focused on building out the video layer tech, but at the end of the day, the voice is also pretty important for a positive experience.

Re: Show HN: LemonSlice – Upgrade your voice agents to real-time video

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Post by canada_dry »

givinguflac wrote: post #80

While the tech is impressive, from an end user interacting with this perspective, I want nothing to do with it, and I can’t support it. Neat as a one off but destructive imho. It’s bad enough some companies are doing AI-only interviews. I could see this used to train employees, interview people, replace people at call centers… it’s the next step towards an absolute nightmare. Automated phone trees are bad enough. The…

> AI-only interviews

Lord. I can see this quickly extending even further into HR e.g. performance reviews: employee must 'speak' to an HR avatar about their performance in the last quarter. the AI will then summarize the discussion for the manager and give them coaching tips.

It sounds valuable and efficient but the slippery slope is all but certain.

Re: Show HN: LemonSlice – Upgrade your voice agents to real-time video

#88

Post by js4ever »

sid-the-kid wrote: post #70
peddling-brink wrote: post #68

I got really excited when I saw that you were releasing your model. > Today we're releasing our new model* - Lemon Slice 2, a 20B-parameter diffusion transformer that generates infinite-length video at 20fps on a single GPU - and opening up our API. But after digging around for a while, searching for a huggingface link, I’m guessing this was just a unfortunate turn of phrase, and you are not in fact, releasing an ope…

Thank you! We are considering to release an open-source version of the model. Somebody will do it soon. Might as well be us. We are mostly concerned with the additional overhead of releasing and then supporting it. So, TBD.

Overhead? None Your real concern is: will potential customers run the model by themselves and skipping us?

Answer is no because you will eventually release a subpar model not your sorta model.

Also people don't have infrastructure to run this at scale (100-500 concurrent users) at best they can run it for 1-2 concurrent users.

This could be a good way for peoples to test it then use your infra.

Ah but you do have an online demo, so you might think this is enough, WRONG.

Re: Show HN: LemonSlice – Upgrade your voice agents to real-time video

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Post by lcolucci »

snowmaker wrote: post #78

I made a golden retriever you can talk to using Lemon Slice: https://lemonslice.com/hn/agent_5af522f5042ff0a8 Having a real-time video conversation with an AI is a trippy feeling. Talk about a "feel the AGI moment", it really does feel like the computer has come alive.

So cool! I love how he sometimes looks down and over his glasses

Re: Show HN: LemonSlice – Upgrade your voice agents to real-time video

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Post by sid-the-kid »

jonsoft wrote: post #81

I asked the Spanish tutor if he/it was familiar with the terms seseo[0] and ceceo[1] and he said it wasn't, which surprised me. Ideally it would be possible to choose which Spanish dialect to practise as mainland Spain pronunciation is very different to Latin America. In general it didn't convince me it was really hearing how I was pronouncing words, an important part of learning a language. I would say the tutor is…

ooof. You saw the Chinese text. Yup, that's super annoying. We are trying to squash that hallucination.

Thanks for the feedback! That's helpful!

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