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TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by bearjaws »

Aurornis wrote: post #73
mark_l_watson wrote: post #4

The forced US hosted tik-tok sale is all about hiding information from the US public that most people in the rest of the world have easy access to.

> that most people in the rest of the world have easy access to The information is everywhere. Visit any news site, open any general social media feed, turn on any TV. We’re discussing it right now in the front page of HN! Everyone in the US has easy access to the same information. Acting like only the rest of the world has easy access to this information is ridiculous.

_you_ have access to it, for an increasingly large number of people TikTok is their only source of news. Same as Fox News or CNN, one news source.

Censorship of TikTok is inevitable given the owners, and it will inevitably lead to a new news bubble.

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by HelloMcFly »

PurpleRamen wrote: post #66

They are in transition, so for the moment I believe them to have technical problems, because it also matches my experience. Yesterday I encountered problems with several videos, which are working today. And not all of them were political. Going by the comments, people on TikTok seem very fast in seeing conspiracies, when many problems can be simply explained with normal problems or human failings. And it's good to be…

The presumption of good faith has been justifiably obliterated when it comes to Topics Such As These with our right-wing extremist political and media leadership.

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by Aurornis »

derbOac wrote: post #49

Honestly I'm surprised people don't jump ship more often with social media platforms. With TikTok this is kind of new news, but there have been related problems with it that have been pretty obvious for some time. The same with X and, before that, Facebook. TikTok has never worked for me though so maybe there's no real equivalent alternative. Maybe time to make one if not? To me it says something about the public, bu…

> Honestly I'm surprised people don't jump ship more often with social media platforms.

Most people don’t pick one social media platform and use it for 100% of everything.

They’ll switch between TikTok, Reddit, Instagram, and others during the day.

It’s not hard to see when one of those platforms is missing discussion of current events.

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by tdb7893 »

ericmay wrote: post #59
mark_l_watson wrote: post #4

The forced US hosted tik-tok sale is all about hiding information from the US public that most people in the rest of the world have easy access to.

I've never in my life used TikTok. Can you please point to a specific article, news source, journal, any piece of information that is legal in the United States that I don't have easy access to so I can see what I'm missing?

Larry and David Ellison have been buying media outlets and those media outlets have started spiking (or delaying, editing, etc) stories that look bad for Trump. It's not that you don't have access at all, it's that these specific platforms are starting to suppress it.

This is the notable example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_CECOT

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by infecto »

torben-friis wrote: post #76
infecto wrote: post #24

Anecdotal to myself. I shamefully sometimes use TikTok, I particularly like recipe clips and even I noticed something in the last week, most noticeably around this weekend where the algorithm for recommendations changed. It’s like they completely wiped my preferences. I try not to watch anything political so I cannot say much about censorship of content but something was noticeable in the last week.

Have you been using it for long? I no longer use TikTok, but I was pretty hooked for a while, and I felt those “waves” every now and then. It was pretty noticeable because each time I started getting extreme right political content from my country, and I neither consume anything local nor right wing content.

Yes I have and this reset was very different than anything I have experienced. I would like a specific recipe and then they the feed would show me someone else’s attempt of that recipe. I haves used the app for years off and on.

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by hbarka »

justonceokay wrote: post #54
gruez wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>is all about hiding information from the US public that most people in the rest of the world have easy access to. Are we talking about the Trump administration or the Biden administration? The current ban was passed under Biden with supermajorities in both houses. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efforts_to_ban_TikTok_in_the_U... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protecting_Americans_from_Fore...

Why is it always a blame game? What dos that accomplish? There’s no “good guy” administrations. There’s just realpolitik. The current iteration of ICE is an outgrowth of the Obama admin, as is the problem with billionaires in politics. Biden put a target on Maduro's head before leaving office (continuing to fill a multi-administration powder keg re: Venezuela). Trump just had the panache to brazenly do the deed inste…

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Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by PurpleRamen »

whatwhaaaaat wrote: post #70
PurpleRamen wrote: post #66

They are in transition, so for the moment I believe them to have technical problems, because it also matches my experience. Yesterday I encountered problems with several videos, which are working today. And not all of them were political. Going by the comments, people on TikTok seem very fast in seeing conspiracies, when many problems can be simply explained with normal problems or human failings. And it's good to be…

Just technical problems in their “banned topic” identification models. No need to be concerned.

The point is that people are more aware of problems happening with that topic, but ignore whether it also happens with other topics. So at the moment it's a very skewed view.

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by alex1138 »

It's kind of amazing that all the companies act in lockstep. Apple, Google, TikTok remove anti-ICE stuff, rightly or wrongly (I'll go with 'wrongly' because of freedom of speech/freedom of app choice, among other things)

They ALL do incredibly corrupt things

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by Aurornis »

empath75 wrote: post #38

[flagged]

A lot of HN users flag any stories about politics.

Given the low quality of a lot of comments under this story and the hyperbolic fighting going on, I don’t exactly blame them. Stories like this are very important and interesting but 75% of the comment section is a dumpster fire.

Comment sections that attract certain comment and downvote patterns can trigger the flame war filter which drops their rank.

It’s not a moderator coming in and hiding things. It’s the users flagging it and/or triggering the flame war filter.

Even with that, there are anti-ICE stories all over the front page every day.

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