Replicating features from existing software has become extremely easy due to AI. I won’t be surprised if open source is able to easily catch up with the bigger products.
Replicating the software is easy, running the services at AWS-scale is hard.
France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.
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Re: France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
Taxes are not really an issue because of the services you get out of it: free healthcare, free education for your kids, etc. But yes, salary before taxes is much lower than in the US. If your goal is to make as much money as possible, either stay in US or move to a different European country (Northern Europe or Switzerland).
As a software engineer in the US you're not really worrying about access to health care, and have access to public schools as well.
"Health Insurance Is Now More Expensive Than the Mortgage for These Americans" - https://www.wsj.com/health/healthcare/aca-health-insurance-c...
Re: France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.
#83I wish them luck, but while saying folks will drop the dominant apps seems all the rage at the moment people have been saying this for decades with almost no real progress at scale. The only way to accomplish this at scale is to build something that is legit better and let the market decide. Anything else is just principled wishful thinking.
The big difference is that USA was nor perceived as a threat before. It is acutely dangerours now and there is no perspective of it changing.
Re: France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.
#84Re: France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.
#85I wish them luck, but while saying folks will drop the dominant apps seems all the rage at the moment people have been saying this for decades with almost no real progress at scale. The only way to accomplish this at scale is to build something that is legit better and let the market decide. Anything else is just principled wishful thinking.
> while saying folks will drop the dominant apps seems all the rage at the moment people have been saying this for decades with almost no real progress at scale.
fortunately, legislation can help here
start with critical national infrastructure to build the market, and work your way out from there
the US regime cannot be permitted to have an off button for our infrastructure
Re: France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.
#86I wish them luck, but while saying folks will drop the dominant apps seems all the rage at the moment people have been saying this for decades with almost no real progress at scale. The only way to accomplish this at scale is to build something that is legit better and let the market decide. Anything else is just principled wishful thinking.
This is the biggest step any country (other than China and those subject to US sanctions) has made to reducing their dependence on American big tech.
Its still a small step, but its a start.
> The only way to accomplish this at scale is to build something that is legit better and let the market decide
You can push people to do this. The government can switch as a matter of policy. It can require companies bigging for government contracts to only use systems based in approved countries. It can make it a requirement for regulated industries (e.g. infrastructure, critical financial services, etc.)
Re: France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.
#87I wish them luck, but while saying folks will drop the dominant apps seems all the rage at the moment people have been saying this for decades with almost no real progress at scale. The only way to accomplish this at scale is to build something that is legit better and let the market decide. Anything else is just principled wishful thinking.
It's only recently that the united states has become an enemy of the EU though. I'd say there's much more motivation to move to other software and platforms now.
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree with Scaleway (I would more compare it to Digital Ocean) but OVH is really good and comparable.
DigitalOcean is fantastic in my experience, way better than The Big Three, especially Azure.
Yes I know! Scaleway is great as well. But I was referring to the product portfolio.
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#89I don't see the dependency on these productivity and communication tools as that difficult of a problem to solve. They are going to have a much harder time weaning off American cloud infrastructure and on to something purely domestic.
Hardware is the biggest problem: PCs (CPUs, RAMs, GPUs), Cellphones, routers, etc. Globalization appears to be self imploding by virtue of the current american president. Now everybody realises you can trust no one.
we were over globalized. COVID showed us that when we couldnt even produce life saving medicines domestically. If the take away from world war 1 was too much nationalism, the take away from covid is, too much globalism.
Resilient cultures are by definition market inefficient.
Re: France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.
#90I don't see the dependency on these productivity and communication tools as that difficult of a problem to solve. They are going to have a much harder time weaning off American cloud infrastructure and on to something purely domestic.
Hardware is the biggest problem: PCs (CPUs, RAMs, GPUs), Cellphones, routers, etc. Globalization appears to be self imploding by virtue of the current american president. Now everybody realises you can trust no one.
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