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Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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You’re right. We should throw away the constitution so we can deport.. (checks notes) 600,000 undocumented immigrants, only 5% of which have committed a violent crime.

I mean, I don't like CCP tech or public executions of disarmed citizens but saying only 5% is a bit nuts.

What percentage of illegal immigrants have committed violent crimes?

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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The alternative is better trained officers with more accountability.

You can’t fix this by giving them more money for training. This is how they’re trained to act.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Grossman_(author)

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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You’re right. We should throw away the constitution so we can deport.. (checks notes) 600,000 undocumented immigrants, only 5% of which have committed a violent crime.

I don't have a horse in this race, but I do have a question. If you don't deport illegal immigrants, why not just open the border to everyone to come in? (let's ignore criminal records, etc for this exercise). What's the point of not letting people in but then if they manage to come in illegally, assume it's all good and they can stay?

That's the question, isn't it? Why not just do that? Who are you trying to keep out of the country, and for what end, and is that end best attained by removing people from the country who aren't the ones you are trying to keep out?

For instance, if you believe the border should be strict to keep out serial killers, what does that have to do with removing Korean car factory workers who aren't serial killers?

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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The alternative is better trained officers with more accountability.

Bovino says "the officer [who killed Pretti] has extensive training as a range safety officer and less lethal officer,” and had served for eight years.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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The same people saying that will also defend police wearing masks, hiding badges, and shutting off body cameras. They are not participating in discussions with the same values (truth, integrity) that you have. Logic does not work on people who believe Calvinistic predestination is the right model for society.

Anyone on the right who implicates Pretti for carrying a licensed firearm is a good litmus test for bad faith.

It's amazing how quickly the party of small government, states rights, and the 2nd amendment quickly turned against all their principles. It really shows how many people care more about party than principle.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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> The classic example here is what happens when someone is being stalked by an abusive ex-partner who works in law enforcement and has access to those databases. There’s a world of difference between a government using legally collected data for multiple purposes and an individual abusing their position purely for personal reasons.

That difference is looking very thin right now.

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Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Any time I see people say "I don't see why I should care about my privacy, I've got nothing to hide" I think about how badly things can go if the wrong people end up in positions of power. The classic example here is what happens when someone is being stalked by an abusive ex-partner who works in law enforcement and has access to those databases. This ICE stuff is that scaled up to a multi-billion dollar federal agen…

The simple response to that line of thinking is: "you don't choose what the government uses against you"

For any piece of data that exists, the government effectively has access to it through court orders or backdoors. Either way, it can and will be used against you.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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I hope that we can agree that blowing off the 10A and allowing all of this federal bloat has not been a swift call. Social services left at the State level would be subject to a smaller pool of votes for approval and are more likely to be funded by actual tax revenue instead of debt. That is: sustainably. Furthermore, the lack of One True Database is a safety feature in the face of the inevitable bad actors. In naval…

Some states are too poor to effectively fund and maintain their own safety nets. It's common for folks laid off in these states to get a dubious mental health diagnosis to justify SSDI, because doctors know they have no prospects and could well become homeless without it.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re right. We should throw away the constitution so we can deport.. (checks notes) 600,000 undocumented immigrants, only 5% of which have committed a violent crime.

I don't have a horse in this race, but I do have a question. If you don't deport illegal immigrants, why not just open the border to everyone to come in? (let's ignore criminal records, etc for this exercise). What's the point of not letting people in but then if they manage to come in illegally, assume it's all good and they can stay?

Buying into the narrative that any of this is about illegal immigrants is a red herring. Immigration is merely a pretext for enabling an unaccountable fascist police state using big data from the consumer surveillance industry to both keep enough people believing the regime's abject reality-insulting lies (the carrot), while extralegally punishing anybody who might be too effective at speaking out (the stick). This is painfully obvious as they move on to target US citizens - both the boots on the ground terror gangs, as well as the increasing political rhetoric about deporting citizens.
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