Genetic data from over 20k U.S. children misused for 'race science'

Post by hubber » Tue, Jan 27, 2026, 1:42 AM UTC

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The premise was more that we can say with near-certainty that there are non-visible genetic differences between the races without even knowing specifically what these traits are or the extent to which they have diverged. We know this based on our understanding of genetics, natural selection, migration patterns, randomness, and the passage of time. It would actually be quite the story if the races were somehow identic…

Your "extremely likely" scenario is the "cold winter theory", which is problematic for many reasons including the myriad of historical instances where hot-climate civilizations outpaced cold-climate civilizations.

Post by hubber » Wed, Jan 28, 2026, 6:18 AM UTC

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So? Why do you think that should be impossible? How would you explain how geographically distant groups in radically different conditions could, over millennia, converge on all of the exact same non-visible traits without even minor variations? I truly can't imagine a way that this would be possible aside from the infinitesimally unlikely product of completely random chance.

You're not even telling a coherent story at this point. The "cold winter theory" isn't merely that the populations are different (though: again: when you look at the molecular evidence and the way genes propagate, it's nowhere nearly as clear as you'd think), it's that the cold winter populations are smarter . But you have to literally ignore most of human history to reach that conclusion. Somehow, in this view of th…

Post by hubber » Wed, Jan 28, 2026, 11:58 PM UTC

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I have no idea what you're talking about or who you're arguing with. You brought up the "cold winter theory". "Cold winter" is very funny. It's just a very funny theory put forth by a huckster white supremacist. Where do you hope to go from there? Whatever the rest of these arguments are, I'm not invested enough in this thread to drag this out. Cold winters. Tell it to the Abbasids! I guess some of them had kind of c…

Post by hubber » Thu, Jan 29, 2026, 2:33 AM UTC

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My illiterate ancestors were beating the shit out of each other in cold northern Europe while hot-clime civilizations were inventing algebra. Can't say enough how funny the cold winter theory is.