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Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by rogerrogerr »

october8140 wrote: post #67
tokyobreakfast wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those companies worth billions like GM and Tesla perform extensive testing to prove to regulators their software isn't going to kill people and does not pose an unacceptable risk to other drivers on the road. Do you get to sidestep all that if you post your code to GitHub?

Imagine if they all worked together on an open source project together.

I’m imagining it… marathon meetings, everyone worried about code standards, someone made Claude rewrite the whole thing in Prologue and is zealously arguing for it in a 900-comment PR.

And somehow half the time invested in the project is arguing about a code of conduct.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by jyscao »

nomel wrote: post #33

There's a few Lex Fridman podcasts with George Hotz, the founder. Highly recommend them: #31 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwcYp-XT7UI #132 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L3gNaAVjQ4 #387 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNrTrx42DGQ

No idea how Fridman manages to bring on the type of high profile guests that he does. Guy does not ask good questions and has the charisma of a wet rag,

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by zoeysmithe »

positron26 wrote: post #78
t1234s wrote: post #69

OEMs would be smart to donate money to this

Anyone who hates driving, being stuck in traffic, anyone who benefits when the cost of transportation is cheaper, anyone who hates insurance, all of society benefits. In some parallel universe self driving and fusion are both crash projects receiving well administered social scale funding. Lots of things are. It is somewhat miraculous that we don't all live in this conclusion, realizing these huge value creation oppo…

None of that is solved by automated driving. You want public trains, BRT bus systems, trams, etc. The ideal universe is you stepping on public trans, not piloting various rube goldberg-esque machines that are far more dangerous and will always contribute to traffic and "one more lane" does not work.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by taneq »

nashashmi wrote: post #37

> Currently, openpilot performs the functions of Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) and Automated Lane Centering (ALC). openpilot can accelerate, brake automatically for other vehicles, and steer to follow the road/lane. [1] [Some of the] Cars that are currently supported already have "smart cruise" and "lane follow". Why then use a third-party self-driving system? [1] https://comma.ai/openpilot#:~:text=Currently%2C%20ope…

I wondered the same thing but after trying a few oem attempts, there’s definitely huge room for improvement. Lane following isn’t very ‘smart’ and doesn’t take context into account (ie. changing position in the lane based on clearance from other vehicles, potholes, upcoming curves etc.)

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by tokyobreakfast »

derekja wrote: post #71
tokyobreakfast wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those companies worth billions like GM and Tesla perform extensive testing to prove to regulators their software isn't going to kill people and does not pose an unacceptable risk to other drivers on the road. Do you get to sidestep all that if you post your code to GitHub?

Yup, because you get to be personally responsible for any outcomes just like you would be if you were driving without ai assistance. If you aren’t comfortable building and testing an open source project then it isn’t for you.

People cry daily that cybertrucks should not be street legal because they do not meet EU safety regulations but gluing plastic gadgets to your window yourself and calling it "AI assistance" is okay because the driver is ultimately responsible?

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by rootusrootus »

LoganDark wrote: post #68

Huh, no love for the Toyota bZ / Subaru Solterra. I wonder if there's a reason or if just nobody's gotten to it yet. (It does have good built-in ACC.)

Some cars it does not support because nobody has been interested in testing it out. Some cars will never be supported because they are using an encrypted CANBUS. The list of cars on that list goes up every year. Eventually no current models will be supportable.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by rootusrootus »

tootie wrote: post #43

This runs with just a single front-facing camera?

Depends on the car what it has access to. It may leverage radar data, for example. Some cars (Ford Lightning for example) it only does lateral (steering) control, longitudinal control is still under the control of the OEM adaptive cruise.

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Post by tokyobreakfast »

AngryData wrote: post #79
tokyobreakfast wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those companies worth billions like GM and Tesla perform extensive testing to prove to regulators their software isn't going to kill people and does not pose an unacceptable risk to other drivers on the road. Do you get to sidestep all that if you post your code to GitHub?

Why not? You are free to modify your vehicle in almost anyway you want as a consumer. Should someone putting some rain shields on their window require licensing and government testing for it because it might break off? Should generic brake pads or tierod ends require independent government testing or approval to be purchased and used? Regulations don't exist to save people from their own stupid mistakes, they exist t…

>You are free to modify your vehicle in almost anyway you want as a consumer.

States have window tinting laws to save people (and others around then) from their own idiocy.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by dymk »

rootusrootus wrote: post #87
LoganDark wrote: post #68

Huh, no love for the Toyota bZ / Subaru Solterra. I wonder if there's a reason or if just nobody's gotten to it yet. (It does have good built-in ACC.)

Some cars it does not support because nobody has been interested in testing it out. Some cars will never be supported because they are using an encrypted CANBUS. The list of cars on that list goes up every year. Eventually no current models will be supportable.

They’re adding new models all the time
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