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Statement by Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, the Netherlands,Norway,Sweden,UK

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Re: Statement by Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, the Netherlands,Norway,Sweden,UK

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Post by Symbiote »

DetectDefect wrote: post #18
saubeidl wrote: post #3

Americans, your Mad King is putting us all in grave danger. Would you please do something about it?

Literally cannot. The asymmetry of technology which we have allowed to grow and flourish makes it infeasible. Flock and other manifestations of this beast sends shivers down spines and prevents any serious resistance.

You can protest or go on strike, for example.

Refuse to buy from any company that supports the current administration (like Microsoft). End contracts where they exist.

Re: Statement by Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, the Netherlands,Norway,Sweden,UK

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Post by __turbobrew__ »

hwguy45 wrote: post #8
saubeidl wrote: post #3

Americans, your Mad King is putting us all in grave danger. Would you please do something about it?

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U.K. and France have nukes. Against a conventional army like the USA, that is all that matters.

Re: Statement by Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, the Netherlands,Norway,Sweden,UK

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Post by _trampeltier »

One thing I never heard a talk about. What would happen to all the US bases in the NATO countrys? I can't imagine the US could fly from NATOs countrys bases and attack Greenland and partner. Would for ex. germany attack Ramstein?

Re: Statement by Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, the Netherlands,Norway,Sweden,UK

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Post by alephnerd »

ancillary wrote: post #75
alephnerd wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We've committed to leave NATO by 2027 [0] to rebalance in Asia. We don't care about Russia. We are worried about China. > Which country is currently earning the most profits by selling weapons within NATO? It doesn't matter, because no European nation can help us in Kinmen, Luzon, Yonaguni, or Gageodo. Both us and China are inching towards a Cuban Missile Crisis level standoff in 2028 after the Taiwanese (January 202…

The linked article says the US has threatened to reduce its support, not committed to leave. Things are bad enough without exaggerating like this.

Functionally, us not participating in defense coordination mechanisms is the equivalent of leaving NATO, as we would not be able to unify response.

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Post by FpUser »

kjuulh wrote: post #7

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>"I still can't tell whether Trump is actually an asset of Russia, or just insane."

Why do people keep looking for Putin under their bed in the mornings? Trump does not give a flying fuck about Putin. He has no problems sanctioning Russia. Trump just does what he wants to do. Meanwhile EU kept sucking up to him instead of standing up. Now the EU reaps what their rulers sowed.

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Post by davepeck »

deadbabe wrote: post #53
Kelteseth wrote: post #11

Let's hope you Americans will vote for the right party in the upcoming midterms. And let's hope you will even get the chance to do so.

We can’t. It’s over. Laws don’t mean anything anymore. Even if we had a full democratic congress, they would just be ignored. The Trump administration has already been grooming people to accept congress is useless, beginning with the month long shutdown. And the Supreme Courts will just go along with whatever the president wants now. Start preparing for the post-American world.

This is self-destructive defeatism. It is also flat wrong on its substantive points.

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Post by bflesch »

alephnerd wrote: post #20
Kelteseth wrote: post #11

Let's hope you Americans will vote for the right party in the upcoming midterms. And let's hope you will even get the chance to do so.

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You're using false equivalence bias. The net result would have definitely been different.

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Post by daveguy »

saubeidl wrote: post #21
hwguy45 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I am speaking German and I wouldn't call what the US is providing security, nor would I call the rampant propaganda bots free speech.

Rampant propaganda bots and consolidation of communications channels in the US is a real problem. Half the country is getting fascist cheerleading 24/7. When you can monopolize the communications channels there is effectively no free speech. Because dissenting views are priced out. Thanks to lax oversight on merging communication companies and the Citizens United decision that equates speech to money in politics, we are in the middle of it now.
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