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Please, just leave already. Stop talking about it and just do it. It’s like people talking about how awful social media is. Just don’t fucking use it. Nothing would make Americans happier than an alternative. Europeans, go build your own big tech that can compete and win against Microsoft/Copilot. It’s not a big lift.
This is written from a Canadian perspective, but even within America, there are good reasons to stop giving money to American tech companies and find alternatives. The founders and executives and investors of all of these companies have become wealthy and powerful. Now they are dismantling the country by funding a certain political group and looking the other way as that same group seeks to deport 100 million America…
Do you think a lot of US tech workers feel the same? From my personal interactions these past few days on HN it is very disappointing how ignorant and devoid of facts the arguments are which come from people who seem to be US tech workers.
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> To push out the US tech you need to build something that’s better than the US tech. Anything else is just wishful thinking. Not true at all, a perfect example from the ride-sharing world. Lyft and Uber left Austin a decade ago over a city ordinance requiring background checks, so a couple local tech folks pitched in a very small amount of money, relatively speaking, and built a non-profit version of Uber. Everyone…
Your story makes the point that the nonprofit app only worked under new government regulations and could not survive in the free market? I do think more infrastructure should be non-profit, but if someone makes a for-profit version that beats you there’s not really much to do other than hoping the government has your back.
Americans when their government blasts their companies full of money for random unnecessary defense projects: "so free, much market, wow"
Enforcing laws, like requiring background checks, makes the market MORE free
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New?! This isn't new. You just haven't been paying attention. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-55615214 Or maybe it is fine when it happens to people you disagree with.
Your argument based on false equivalence bias might work with in a megachurch but not here. Amazon dropping Parler, a shitty US-based right wing social network nobody outside the US ever heard of, is totally on the same level as US waging economic warfare against Europe and laying claim on sovereign countries like Canada and Greenland. /s
Thanks for proving the point.
I think many people don't realize how big this dependence is. You're running Linux? Oh fine... on which hard- and firmware? Intel? AMD? Apple Silicon? Qualcomm? All US. You're using the Internet? Via Cisco routers? Europe and other regions would have to put in huge efforts to really gain independence.
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Your argument based on false equivalence bias might work with in a megachurch but not here. Amazon dropping Parler, a shitty US-based right wing social network nobody outside the US ever heard of, is totally on the same level as US waging economic warfare against Europe and laying claim on sovereign countries like Canada and Greenland. /s
Every service provider dropped them. Cool weapon, let's use it more. Thanks for proving the point.
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Is US tech even good anymore? Do none of us not encounter the massive amount of shit from companies like Google, MSFT, Apple, Amazon, etc as users? Truly terrible bugs or user flows from engineers that clearly don't care while everyone is just collecting their own share of blood. I can't think of a single thing that big tech has done to improve my life, or society for that matter, over the last 10 years. All US Tech…
I see US (software) tech going the way of Boeing and Intel in the next decade. I’m not sure what their long term goals are, or if they even have any beyond chasing large/quick short term profits, but you can only enshittify your product and abuse your customers for so long before they start abandoning you.
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You absolutely can fight market forces. China did it for decades with their car industry. Chinese people were financially forced to buy inferior Chinese cars to support a domestic industry until it learned to compete in the global market. Very difficult to do this in a democracy, though.
Isn't that the exact description of the current U.S. car market?
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Do you think a lot of US tech workers feel the same? From my personal interactions these past few days on HN it is very disappointing how ignorant and devoid of facts the arguments are which come from people who seem to be US tech workers.
I think most are totally unaware. The ones that could become victimized by the administration are quietly terrified and worried about their future. But they can’t speak up because their CEOs are fans of the administration. One disappointing pattern I see is many tech workers downplaying what’s going on - I think it’s hard for them to imagine what the impact is when it doesn’t threaten them specifically.
Here are the migrations we been doing to with my extended family to get rid of our US dependencies: - Gmail -> ProtonMail - Whatsapp -> Telegram - I installed Linux to my parents laptops. They like it. - YouTube App -> Newpipe and Smarttube Also, my next car will be a BYD. The current one is a Ford.
Ford actually makes vehicles in Europe. Does BYD? If push comes to shove and Europe needs to part ways with the USA, to greater or lesser degree, there will still be machinists, mechanics, and actual facilities in place to keep making Fords. That is a positive from the standpoint of European sovereignty. The EU probably has rules in place to strongly encourage US manufacturers of automobiles to put facilities in the…
Not yet. They are in the process of opening a factory in Hungary. The production line equipment arrived in December, with trial production scheduled for Q1 2026, and mass production in Q2, with capacity ramping up over two years.
They are also doing a factory in Turkey.
Their plan is for all of the EVs they sell in Europe to be made in the EU by 2028.
They aren't the only Chinese car maker interested in producing in Europe. Chery is building a big plant in Spain. Geely is looking at options in Poland or Hungary but hasn't decided on a site yet. SAIC is planning to make cars in Hungary.