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Re: Verizon outages reported across U.S.

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Post by noncoml »

daveguy wrote: post #24

Verizon acknowledged the issue: https://xcancel.com/VerizonNews/status/2011500483072954495 https://downdetector.com/ shows verizon, tmobile, and att. BUT if you look at the magnitude of the outages for tmobile and att vs verizon it's fractions of a percent. Likely those people with tmobile and att reporting when they have trouble communicating with verizon customers. (Note, you have to click on the providers to see a…

> Verizon acknowledged the issue: > https://xcancel.com/VerizonNews/status/2011500483072954495

Looking at the replies some of the people who are more worried about the outage seem to be the OF models

Not judging or trying to make a point. Just find it interesting the ways things are interconnected

Re: Verizon outages reported across U.S.

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Post by cormorant »

malfist wrote: post #59
tantalor wrote: post #26

Here's a map: https://downdetector.com/status/verizon/map/

That's a population map

It's a population map lacking Dallas for sure ... which might mean something real ... but that doesn't match the per-city charts they offer. Who knows.

Re: Verizon outages reported across U.S.

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Post by tjohns »

Nextgrid wrote: post #79
IncandescentGas wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Telco infra runs on autopilot?

Almost; you need maintenance and monitoring but that doesn't take anywhere near 100k people - assuming they even use their own headcount for this instead of just outsourcing maintenance to their equipment vendor. Big Tech companies operate much more complex systems (for starters, they actually build greenfield stuff instead of buying ready-made equipment from a vendor and plugging it in) and have way less headcount.

Carrier-level telco is labor intensive.

You're building new cell towers, managing countless failed backhual links (thanks to fiber's natural enemy, the backhoe), working with whatever obscure bugs your MVNOs have managed to uncover, certifying new cell phone designs, and still working on upgrading everything to 5G while simultaneously planning for 6G (keeping in mind that the 5G network architecture looks radically different than the LTE architecture). Much of that work is necessarily physically distributed across the entire country.

Not to mention dealing with end-user sales and support, which unfortunately often needs physical stores.

I'm not going to say whether 100k is too many, but there's a lot more involved here than just maintenance and monitoring - especially if you want your network capacity to keep up with growing demand.

Re: Verizon outages reported across U.S.

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Post by Nextgrid »

downrightmike wrote: post #52
_nickwhite wrote: post #29

At 2:14PM EST, Verizon said: "Verizon engineering teams are continuing to address today's service interruptions. Our teams remain fully deployed and are focused on the issue. We understand the impact this has on your day and remain committed to resolving this as quickly as possible." As someone responsible my whole career for uptime and network response, I really feel for the engineers, at the same time hoping my ser…

Odds are they have a ton of outsourced engineers who are an ocean away and unable to do anything.

That's very often the case. I bet there are frantic calls being made right now (probably using a competing carrier!) to Ericsson/etc to come to their rescue, which they happily will in exchange for a hefty fee.

Re: Verizon outages reported across U.S.

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Post by syntaxing »

mtlynch wrote: post #45
syntaxing wrote: post #30

Recently downloaded bitchat so I can contact my family members if outages like this happen when we’re out and about. I got a few T1000 cards for meshtastic but there’s just too much friction to teach my spouse and others how and when to use it. I wish haloW was built into phones which would make long range local communication much better.

Does bitchat work during a phone outage? Range on BLE is pretty low, right, so I'd expect it to not do much unless you happen to live in an area where there are bitchat users every 100 ft or so. I'm in a similar boat to you in wanting a LoRa mesh. I tried out MeshCore on the LilyGo T-Deck+ hoping it would be a device I could hand out to family members, but I found the hardware and software disappointing.[0] But I'm w…

Unfortunately as you said, the range is abysmal since it uses BLE. It’s barely enough for a box store but it’s better than nothing. I like the idea of the lilygo pager too. I first thought it was e-ink from some of the pictures but sadly it was not.

Re: Verizon outages reported across U.S.

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Post by Nextgrid »

wildzzz wrote: post #35
kotaKat wrote: post #27

I've got a Verizon Network Extender and it appears to be online - the tunnel is up back to VZW's security gateway, but all of my phones are refusing to register to it. I did manage to roam onto an international network on the boarder near me in New York/Canada, so some bits of the core seem functional for authentication. When I roam internationally I appear to be on Telus's 3G network (no LTE) for data and voice is f…

I could see Verizon access points but just couldn't connect to any of them. I had no issue sending texts over wifi though.

Parts of the HLR might be unavailable or under a thundering herd as all phones are trying to register at once. The HLR would also be involved if using EAP-SIM/EAP-AKA so that would explain failures on the Wi-Fi access points.

Re: Verizon outages reported across U.S.

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Post by Spooky23 »

Nextgrid wrote: post #79
IncandescentGas wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Telco infra runs on autopilot?

Almost; you need maintenance and monitoring but that doesn't take anywhere near 100k people - assuming they even use their own headcount for this instead of just outsourcing maintenance to their equipment vendor. Big Tech companies operate much more complex systems (for starters, they actually build greenfield stuff instead of buying ready-made equipment from a vendor and plugging it in) and have way less headcount.

lol. You figured it out, Verizon wireless can just be replaced by a UniFi router and ChatGPT.

Re: Verizon outages reported across U.S.

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Post by drnick1 »

venturecruelty wrote: post #38
syntaxing wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m somewhat surprised you’re still using your ISP’s DNS when there’s ton of better free or paid options.

"You relied on a service you pay for to actually work? What are you, stupid?"

Many reasons not do use the provided DNS. First, you don't want to give the ISP more information on your browsing habits than it can already gather otherwise. Second, in some countries, ISPs censor websites at the request of of the movie and music industries. Those are enough reasons to rely on a neutral DNS provider like Quad9 or your own DNS server.

Re: Verizon outages reported across U.S.

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Post by relium »

syntaxing wrote: post #25
Scubabear68 wrote: post #15

Our Comcast DNS keeps going in and out too, not clear if it is related or knock on effect or something else entirely.

I’m somewhat surprised you’re still using your ISP’s DNS when there’s ton of better free or paid options.

We had edge delivery issues when I didn't use my ISP's DNS, especially from Apple. Not exactly sure of the mechanism, but downloading Xcode would take 2 hours instead of 10 minutes.
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