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Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

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Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

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Yeah I think Anthropic has the "right" to do this. That's fine. But they also have shown a weakness by failing to understand why people might want to do this (use their Max membership with OpenCode etc instead). People aren't using opencode or crush with their Claude Code memberships because they're trying to exploit or overuse tokens or something. That isn't possible. They do it because Claude Code the tool itself i…

Meh. I’ve never used my x20 Max account in OpenCode because the Oauth solution was clearly “hacky”. But to me the appeal of OpenCode is that I can mix and match APIs and local models. I have DeepSeek R1 doing research while KLM is planning and doing code reviews and o4 mini breaking down screenshots into specs while local QWEN is doing the work. My experience with bugs has also been the exact opposite of what you des…

KLM the airline ;) ? Or do you mean GLM?

And you let local QWEN write the code for you? Is the output any good or comparable to frontier models?

Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

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post #17

Can't Opencode just modify their implementation to use the anthropic claude code SDK directly? The issue is they were spoofing oauth. I tried OpenCode before this whole drama and immediately noticed the oauth spoofing and never authorized it. Doesn't opencode speak ACP? https://agentclientprotocol.com/overview/agents

It already does. You can use the Anthropic API in any tool, but these users wanted to use the claude code subscription.

OpenCode wasn't using claude CLI at all (or claude SDK). They were using their own agent loop and bypassing claude cli entirely (except for spoofing auth).

Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

#83
post #17

Can't Opencode just modify their implementation to use the anthropic claude code SDK directly? The issue is they were spoofing oauth. I tried OpenCode before this whole drama and immediately noticed the oauth spoofing and never authorized it. Doesn't opencode speak ACP? https://agentclientprotocol.com/overview/agents

The SDK bundles Claude code and uses it for its agentic work. The SDK really only lets you control the UI layer. It als doesn’t yet fully support plan mode.

I use the SDK in my app and it works fine with plan mode. I don't deal with auth at all. I detect if the CLI is installed and it just reuses whatever auth the user has already setup. Works fine.

Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

#86
Anyone that sees the value in Claude Code will never leave.

This will be completely forgotten in like a week.

And if you leave because of this, more support for those that abide by the TOS and stay.

This is akin to someone selling/operating a cloud platform named Blazure and it’s just a front for Azure.

My view to everyone is to stop trying to control the ecosystem and just build shit. Fast.

Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

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While I respect the author's opinion (and it's interesting that Vibe Coding, the term is less than a year old), I am more than happy to be an Anthropic customer, and actually happy that they've opened more capacity for their paying customers. What I'm achieving with Claude is spectacular and for now, it's the best system I've found to meet my goals.

Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try plan mode if you haven't already. Stay in plan mode until it is to your satisfaction. With Opus 4.5, when you approve the plan it'll implement the exact spec without getting off track 95% of the time.

It's fine, but it's still "make big giant plan then yeet the impl" at the end. It's still not appropriate for the kind of incremental, chunked, piecework that's needed in a shop that has a decent review cycle. It's irresponsible to your teammates to dump very large giant finished pieces of work on them for review. I try to impress that on my coworkers, and I don't appreciate getting code reviews like that for submiss…

> Which means basically learning everything this thing did

I expect that from all my team mates, coworkers and reports. Submitting something for code review that they don't understand is unacceptable.

Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

#90
It seems that Anthropic's thesis is that vertical integration wins.

It's too soon to tell if that's true or not.

One of the features of vertical integration is that there will be folks complaining about it. Like the way folks would complain that it's impossible or hard to install macOS on anything other than a Mac, and impossible or hard to install anything other than macOS on a Mac. Yet, despite those complains, the Mac and macOS are successful. So: the fact that folks are complaining about Anthropic's vertical integration play does not mean that it won't be successful for them. It also doesn't mean that they are clueless

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