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Open Chaos: A self-evolving open-source project

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Re: Open Chaos: A self-evolving open-source project

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I'd expect even more chaos, let an LLM build the features and people vote.

I kind-of want to see an experiment going the other way.

Have a repo that has a committee of AI models deciding what to merge. Inform them of the goals of the project and that they should only allow positive changes but people are allowed to make adversarial PRs.

It can be more active because the committee can meet on demand. Then people and AI's can attempt to bend the project to their wills.

Re: Open Chaos: A self-evolving open-source project

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Should votes get invalidated after major change in the ongoing PR?

Votes should remain. Have a criteria for invalidating candidates.

Anything beyond a certain age, and anything with unresolved conflicts gets stood down and requires a fresh nomination.

Re: Open Chaos: A self-evolving open-source project

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Says anyone who has tried to do anything requiring the smallest amount of computer science or computer engineering. These models are really great at boilerplate and simple web apps. As soon as you get beyond that, it gets hairy. For example, I have a clone of HN I've been working on that adds subscriptions and ad slot bidding. Just those two features required a lot of hand holding. Figma Design nailed the UX, but the…

> a clone of HN I've been working on that adds subscriptions and ad slot bidding Wut, what's the purpose of that? Is this just a toy learning project? Would it be to make money off of people who don't know that an ad-free version of HN exists at news.ycombinator.com? Will you try to sell it to Ycombinator?

I am hoping they are developing it as a satirical art project, otherwise... yikes; needing a credit card and an ad blocker to use HN would be very depressing and is counter to everything I enjoy about this forum.

Re: Open Chaos: A self-evolving open-source project

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Says anyone who has tried to do anything requiring the smallest amount of computer science or computer engineering. These models are really great at boilerplate and simple web apps. As soon as you get beyond that, it gets hairy. For example, I have a clone of HN I've been working on that adds subscriptions and ad slot bidding. Just those two features required a lot of hand holding. Figma Design nailed the UX, but the…

> a clone of HN I've been working on that adds subscriptions and ad slot bidding Wut, what's the purpose of that? Is this just a toy learning project? Would it be to make money off of people who don't know that an ad-free version of HN exists at news.ycombinator.com? Will you try to sell it to Ycombinator?

A "clone" usually doesn't mean that they'll copy the content, but the idea, like Ola is a clone of Uber.

(Though they probably should've said a link aggregator instead of HN clone.)

Re: Open Chaos: A self-evolving open-source project

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Yes, this could end up either turning into a Linux or like when Microsoft released Tay and Twitter users taught it to be a Nazi. Or anywhere in between, really.

It really can't for numerous reasons, one of them being that PRs have to be fairly low effort, and this will be even more so if the popular "merge daily" PR is voted in. People talk about this "evolving", but it's nothing like biological evolution or genetic algorithms. It's just a linear sequence of small changes, and without either planning and central authority or some stable fitness function (the ecological envir…

> the changes are directionless.

I guess we’ll see whether that turns out to be true! Will be a fun experiment to watch, at least.

Re: Open Chaos: A self-evolving open-source project

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Says anyone with a modest level of skill at programming. It doesn't take a genius programmer to realize these things are terrible at writing code.

Not a developer by trade. But incidentally, today I took my first stab at "vibe coding". I wrote a little gui program to streamline a process that I've been doing for years. The code is an absolute wreck. But the program works and does what it's meant to do. I wouldn't ever expect anyone to maintain it, but for what it is, I can't complain. The alternative would have been for the tool to have not been written at all.…

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Re: Open Chaos: A self-evolving open-source project

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Says anyone who has tried to do anything requiring the smallest amount of computer science or computer engineering. These models are really great at boilerplate and simple web apps. As soon as you get beyond that, it gets hairy. For example, I have a clone of HN I've been working on that adds subscriptions and ad slot bidding. Just those two features required a lot of hand holding. Figma Design nailed the UX, but the…

> a clone of HN I've been working on that adds subscriptions and ad slot bidding Wut, what's the purpose of that? Is this just a toy learning project? Would it be to make money off of people who don't know that an ad-free version of HN exists at news.ycombinator.com? Will you try to sell it to Ycombinator?

Mostly just learning, to be honest. I'm not trying to replace HN, I'm just fiddling around and seeing what I can do and what I can't.

My long term purpose is to provide the source code for communities/creators that want something simple to set up, and specifically allow creators to gate content behind a paywall. I'm sure stuff like that exists, but I hope what I build will be at least somewhat use-able.

Re: Open Chaos: A self-evolving open-source project

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> a clone of HN I've been working on that adds subscriptions and ad slot bidding Wut, what's the purpose of that? Is this just a toy learning project? Would it be to make money off of people who don't know that an ad-free version of HN exists at news.ycombinator.com? Will you try to sell it to Ycombinator?

A "clone" usually doesn't mean that they'll copy the content, but the idea, like Ola is a clone of Uber. (Though they probably should've said a link aggregator instead of HN clone.)

> (Though they probably should've said a link aggregator instead of HN clone.)

That's fair. It is a feature-to-feature clone, though.

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