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Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by OGEnthusiast »

gpm wrote: post #73
BoiledCabbage wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Anyway, this is embarrassing for Anthropic. Why? A few times in this thread I hear people saying "they shouldn't have done this" or something similar but not given any reason why. Listing features you like of another product isn't a reason they shouldn't have done it. It's absolutely not embarrassing, and if anything it's embarrassing they didn't catch and do it sooner.

Because the value proposition that has people pay Anthropic is that it's the best LLM-coding tool around. When you're competing on "we can ban you from using the model we use with the same rate limits we use" everyone knows you have failed to do so. They might or might not currently have the best coding LLM - but they're admitting that whatever moat they thought they were building with claude code is worthless. The b…

> Because the value proposition that has people pay Anthropic is that it's the best LLM-coding tool around.

Why not just use a local LLM instead? That way you don't have to pay anyone.

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by zerohp »

justinsaccount wrote: post #70
commanderkeen08 wrote: post #4

No. Do you realize how much of a joke Claude code is? Under the hood. How they implemented client auth? Well let me tell you https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode/blob/dev/packages/open... You literally send your first message “you are Claude code” The fact that this ever worked was insane. Headline is more like anthropic vibes a bug and finally catches it.

That sort of mechanism is not a "joke" and is often used for trademark/legal reasons, not technical ones.

The joke is that AI companies pretend to care about doing legal things.

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by casparvitch »

gpm wrote: post #73
BoiledCabbage wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Anyway, this is embarrassing for Anthropic. Why? A few times in this thread I hear people saying "they shouldn't have done this" or something similar but not given any reason why. Listing features you like of another product isn't a reason they shouldn't have done it. It's absolutely not embarrassing, and if anything it's embarrassing they didn't catch and do it sooner.

Because the value proposition that has people pay Anthropic is that it's the best LLM-coding tool around. When you're competing on "we can ban you from using the model we use with the same rate limits we use" everyone knows you have failed to do so. They might or might not currently have the best coding LLM - but they're admitting that whatever moat they thought they were building with claude code is worthless. The b…

Is it that it's the best coding tool or the best model? I still get the best (most accurate) results out of anthropic models (but not out of CC).

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by [deleted] »

ehnto wrote: post #72
BoiledCabbage wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Anyway, this is embarrassing for Anthropic. Why? A few times in this thread I hear people saying "they shouldn't have done this" or something similar but not given any reason why. Listing features you like of another product isn't a reason they shouldn't have done it. It's absolutely not embarrassing, and if anything it's embarrassing they didn't catch and do it sooner.

As a user it is because I can no longer use the subscription with the greater tooling ecosystem. As for Anthropic, they might not want to do this as they may lose users who decide to use another provider, since without the cost benefit of the subscription it doesn't make sense to stay with them and also be locked into their tooling.

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Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by Syzygies »

nextaccountic wrote: post #71
weird-eye-issue wrote: post #24

The API is not banned only using the Claude Code subscription is I actually tried this several months back to do a regular API request using the CC subscription token and it gave the same error message So this software must have been pretending to be Claude Code in order to get around that A Claude Code subscription should not work with other software, I think this is totally fair

Is Claude Code still available on IDEs through ACP? Like https://zed.dev/docs/ai/external-agents

Yes. I've been using it today with Zed (a mind-blowing editor, by the way).

One must use an API key to work through Zed, but my Max subscription can be used with Claude Code as an external agent via Zed ACP. And there's some integration; it's a better experience than Claude Code in a terminal next to file viewing in an editor.

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by CuriouslyC »

conception wrote: post #43
creativeSlumber wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A Claude Code subscription should not work with other software. why not though? aren't you paying for the model usage regardless of the client you use?

But they get telemetry, feedback, good will, etc. That’s one reason why usage is discounted to a subscription fee.

Good will, huh?

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by weird-eye-issue »

gpm wrote: post #47
weird-eye-issue wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not up to you or me. I think it's pretty clear by the phrase "Claude Code subscription" that it's meant for only "Claude Code". Why are you confused? This could be so easily abused by companies who spend thousands of dollars per month for API costs you could just reverse engineer it and use the subscription tokens to get that down to a few hundred

That phrase isn't the official one. It's "The Max Plan" which "combines Claude Desktop and mobile apps and Claude Code in one subscription".

Yeah, exactly.

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by ronsor »

justinsaccount wrote: post #70
commanderkeen08 wrote: post #4

No. Do you realize how much of a joke Claude code is? Under the hood. How they implemented client auth? Well let me tell you https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode/blob/dev/packages/open... You literally send your first message “you are Claude code” The fact that this ever worked was insane. Headline is more like anthropic vibes a bug and finally catches it.

That sort of mechanism is not a "joke" and is often used for trademark/legal reasons, not technical ones.

Both Nintendo and Sega tried that, and it did not work as they legally intended.
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