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> That does not make ICE better, but it does make gene pool cleaner. Wow. Just wow.
They are not even trying to hide it anymore.
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I am sorry, but the damage is already done. It cannot be repaired. NEVER!
> I am sorry, but the damage is already done. It cannot be repaired. NEVER! I hate to invoke Godwin's law, but Germany was once the most reviled country in the world and is now, arguably, the most influential country in the European Union. Clearly, damage much worse than what the US has done over Trump's two terms can be repaired over time.
Unfortunately, that path back for Germany required holding those responsible accountable, in some cases fatally so. I don't see that happening here. Nothing will prevent or dissuade Trump's political allies from continuing his movement. Yes they may lose an election here or there, but I don't see any indication that MAGA is anywhere close to becoming politically toxic. Until a post-WWII style reckoning can be had, I am not optimistic that reputational repair can happen.
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I am sorry, but the damage is already done. It cannot be repaired. NEVER! I hate to invoke Godwin's law, but Germany was once the most reviled country in the world and is now, arguably, the most influential country in the European Union. Clearly, damage much worse than what the US has done over Trump's two terms can be repaired over time.
Unfortunately, that path back for Germany required holding those responsible accountable, in some cases fatally so. I don't see that happening here. Nothing will prevent or dissuade Trump's political allies from continuing his movement. Yes they may lose an election here or there, but I don't see any indication that MAGA is anywhere close to becoming politically toxic. Until a post-WWII style reckoning can be had, I…
> Yes they may lose an election here or there, but I don't see any indication that MAGA is anywhere close to becoming politically toxic.
I think we're on the cusp of it right now. The ICE murders make it more and more untenable and indefensible for the average American to defend without sounding crazy. But even if this doesn't do it, or an invasion of Greenland somehow doesn't do it, the big question will be: can MAGA even survive as a movement without Trump?
> Until a post-WWII style reckoning can be had, I am not optimistic that reputational repair can happen.
I fully agree. A third Reconstruction is needed in this country.
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#84> American taxpayers have spent billions on these organizations with little return, while they often criticize U.S. policies, advance agendas contrary to our values, or waste taxpayer dollars by purporting to address important issues but not achieving any real results. >By exiting these entities, President Trump is saving taxpayer money and refocusing resources on America First priorities. Taking a look at the actual…
> with little return
It's like they don't realise the bulk of their power is a consequence of the rest of the world agreeing that some kind of world order, no matter how flawed, is more desirable that a world of empires fighting for power and bullying everyone else into submission.
That's going to be an interesting century, and I very much doubt the US will be as relevant as today by the end of it.
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I know, right!? Wait! You don't?
I guess what you really want inside bodies that are contrary to your interests is not your official representatives, but moles pretending to be representatives of other states. (But not nobody at all.)
Aren't all official reps moles? That's what a diplomat does - represent your best interests with a big smile talking to their guy or gal that also has a big smile. We're all friends here... until we're not.
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unfortunately, that path back for Germany required holding those responsible accountable, in some cases fatally so. I don't see that happening here. Nothing will prevent or dissuade Trump's political allies from continuing his movement. Yes they may lose an election here or there, but I don't see any indication that MAGA is anywhere close to becoming politically toxic. Until a post-WWII style reckoning can be had, I…
> Yes they may lose an election here or there, but I don't see any indication that MAGA is anywhere close to becoming politically toxic. I think we're on the cusp of it right now. The ICE murders make it more and more untenable and indefensible for the average American to defend without sounding crazy. But even if this doesn't do it, or an invasion of Greenland somehow doesn't do it, the big question will be: can MAG…
> A third Reconstruction is needed in this country.
Arguably the first two didn't go far enough.
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#88That creates a lot of work for the next administration.
This is fairly routine -- for Democratic executive administrations to unfuck financial / other poor performance / bad health promulgated by prior Republican ones: Republicans since Reagan have prioritized tax cuts as an end in themselves, treating deficit concerns as secondary Democrats have generally accepted the post-1990s norm of PAYGO (pay-as-you-go) budgeting more consistently Trump has been remarkable effective…
> His term makes me think maybe we DON'T want Presidents, as they're too powerful and it's too risky a structural design.
Or we could go back to actually following Constitutional intent. In that, the executive branch isn't the most powerful at all. Congress is.
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#90Pre-WWII the US was largely isolationist, but it's hard to argue this is a return to those values while we're funding the war on Gaza and electively invading Venezuela. This regime's policies are incoherent.