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Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

#81
post #6

I want less microsoft/copilot in things, not more. I don't know who this is for.

I don't understand the advantages of this over a laptop (this is essentially laptop-grade hardware and thermal profile but without the screen & battery).

Numeric keypad? Spill-resistant.

Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

#82
post #75

I don't want one, but all the skepticism is weird. I can see it making sense for hot desking office workers, or other similar. When I worked from home at my last job, I kept the laptop closed and out of sight and just connected my own monitors. Most people aren't picky about keyboards, so this seems like a perfectly reasonable product for plenty of people.

It would work, but is it any better than existing options like a little computer on the desk, a computer on the back of the monitor, or an AIO PC?

I dunno. I like it. I think it's neat. I won't buy one, but I look forward to the Cathode Ray Dude episode about it 25 years from now.

Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

#83

So it's a laptop, without display. Can I attach my own keyboard? From the pictures, I get the impression the keyboard sucks.

> From the pictures, I get the impression the keyboard sucks. That was my initial thought. They made the keyboard a big part of the product, and that is the keyboard they came up with? It's like advertising a fancy new type of AIO and then putting a crummy 50% sRGB gamut 480p TN panel in it.

Most people don't care about mechanical keyboards, they just use whatever their employer provides, comes free with the PC, or is just the best deal on Amazon.

Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

#85

Incorrectly advertising battery capacity as 32W instead of (presumably) 32WH is a hilarious mistake for a company the size of HP

If there was any doubt left whether Hewlett-Packard is still a company run by engineers, that was a clean way to dispel it.

Perhaps some rogue proofreader "fixed" a stray character

Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

#86
post #36

Incorrectly advertising battery capacity as 32W instead of (presumably) 32WH is a hilarious mistake for a company the size of HP

I mean at least they didn't use mah. I am surprised it actually have a battery in it I thought you would have to plug it in to use it.

I would guess that it also helps with accidental restarts due to power loss while repositioning the keyboard on your desk. It doesn't take much force to pull out USB-C.

Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

#88

So it's a laptop, without display. Can I attach my own keyboard? From the pictures, I get the impression the keyboard sucks.

> From the pictures, I get the impression the keyboard sucks. That was my initial thought. They made the keyboard a big part of the product, and that is the keyboard they came up with? It's like advertising a fancy new type of AIO and then putting a crummy 50% sRGB gamut 480p TN panel in it.

And Lenovo launched an AIO with a 2560x2880 display.

Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

#89
The HP EliteBoard runs a "AMD Ryzen AI 300 series processor", "50 TOPS NPU", with "800M series graphics" and up to 64gb of memory.

As far as I've seen, they have not publicly stated which specific processor its running. This combination means: Its not a Ryzen AI Max 300 processor, because these run the 8060S integrated graphics. (also, they'd have probably stated Max if it was). Moving down-range: the HX375 has 55 NPU TOPS, so its more likely that the best chip it could run is the HX370 (12c/24t); but it could be as low as the 330 (4c8t).

The HX370 posts geekbench 6 scores of single core ~2917 multi-core ~15249.

For comparison: the Apple M5, found in the iPad Pro and upcoming Mac Mini, scores single core ~4291 multi-core ~17469.

Overall, I think this is cool and evocative, and depending on the chip they use the performance could be pretty solid. However, I don't like the idea of a desktop PC being so integrated with a peripheral, such as a keyboard or monitor.

Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

#90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't have to pay for the small laptop screen. That makes it cheaper, smaller, lighter, in theory.

It also ties you to a desk. If you're working in one location, a desktop PC would be more cost-effective and more performant. If you need mobility between desks, a small form factor PC would be easier to carry. And if you are an employer and expect employees to work from home on this keyboard, you need to buy monitors for their homes.

The first thing I thought of when I saw this was using a phone as the display. Not as good as an actual monitor, but a far more interesting setup than what you're imagining.
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