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Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by Y_Y »

fnoef wrote: post #65

I’m kind of torn on this. From one side, I can’t seem to trust doctors any more. I recently had a tooth removed (by the advice of two different doctors), in a claim that it will resolve my pain, which it did not, and now 3 different doctors don’t know what’s causing my pain. Most doctor advice boil down to drink some water and take a painkiller, while glancing for 15 seconds at my medical history before they dedicate…

Unfortunately doctors are fallible humans, but also the infallible gatekeepers of pharmaceuticals and surgeries. Unfortunately I've become relatively knowledgeable about a condition I have myself, to the extent where I'll ofyen have much more subject knowledge than a given nonspecialist doctor. All the same they have to make on-the-spot decisions about me that will have serious consequences for both of us, in between twenty similar cases on either side.

As an aside, I'm very sorry for what you're going through. Empathy is easy when you've had something similar! I'll say that in my case removing a tooth that was impinging on a nerve did have substantial benfits that only became clear months down the line. I'm not saying that will happen for you, but a bit of irrational optimism seems to be an empirically useful policy.

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Post by SAI_Peregrinus »

flipbrad wrote: post #80

"we built foundational protections (...) including (...) training our models not to retain personal information from user chats" Can someone please ELI5 - why is this a training issue, rather than basic design? How does one "train" for this?

I assume they want to retain all other info from user chats, and they're using an LLM to classify the info as "personal" or not.

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Post by oldjim798 »

plasticeagle wrote: post #62

This is absolutely going to kill people. In a country that had even a modicum of regulation around providing healthcare this would be illegal.

Completely agree. It is deeply irresponsible for OpenAI to release this product.

They should held liable for malpractice for every incorrect statement and advice provided by it.

Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by ares623 »

EForEndeavour wrote: post #71
password54321 wrote: post #16

yikes: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46524382 [Teenager died of overdose 'after ChatGPT coached him on drug-taking']

An estimated 371,000 people die every year following a misdiagnosis, and 424,000 are permanently disabled. https://qualitysafety.bmj.com/content/33/2/109?rss=1 Admittedly I am basing this on pure vibes: I'd bet that adding AI to the healthcare environment will, on balance, reduce this number, not increase it.

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Post by ipnon »

flipbrad wrote: post #80

"we built foundational protections (...) including (...) training our models not to retain personal information from user chats" Can someone please ELI5 - why is this a training issue, rather than basic design? How does one "train" for this?

I used to work in healthtech. Information that can be used to identify a person is regulated in America under the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA). These regulations are much stricter than the free-for-all that constitutes usage of information in companies that are dependent on ad networks. These regulations are strict and enforceable, so a healthcare company would be fined for failing to protect HIPAA data. OpenAI isn't a healthcare provider yet, but I'm guessing this is the framework they're basing their data retention and protection around for this new app.

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Post by namesbc »

Such a dystopian nightmare we live in now. The US is cutting our actual healthcare services to subsidize this shit so billionaires can become trillionares while the rest of us suffer

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Post by soared »

paulgrimes1 wrote: post #41

Here’s something: my chatGPT quietly assumed I had ADHD for around 9 months, up until October 2025. I don’t suffer from ADHD. I only found out through an answer that began “As you have ADHD..” I had it stop right there, and asked it to tell me exactly where it got this information; the date, the title of the chat, the exact moment it took this data on as an attribute of mine. It was unable to specify any of it, aside…

It doesn’t have itself as a data source to reference, so asking “tell me when you said this” etc will never work

Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by cyberpunk »

midldei wrote: post #79
roger_ wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, if it will help me and others. Again, I understand those who disagree.

But this is a 'cart before the horse' situation. What evidence do you have that providing your health information to this company will help you or anyone (other than those with financial interest in the company)? There is a very real, near definite, chance that giving your, and others', health data to this company will hurt you and others. Will you still hold this, "I personally don’t care who has access to my health…

I’m definitely a privacy fist person, but can you explain how health data could hurt you, besides obvious things like being discriminated against for insurance if you have a drug habit or whatever. Like, i’m a fitness conscious 30 something white male, what risk is there of my appendix operation being common knowledge or that i need more iron or something?
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