Earlier quoted context omitted.
What makes you say it is silenced by HN?
This seems like it should be on the HN front page. And yesterday.
Surely it us missing just because many have flagged it. But that's far short of silencing it.
Grok Sexual Images Draw Rebuke, France Flags Content as Illegal
81–90 of 103 posts
Re: Grok Sexual Images Draw Rebuke, France Flags Content as Illegal
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
"We the people" in agregate. "Many individuals" != democratic majority. To argue otherwise is to claim that the ~1% of the population who are into this are going to sway the governments or the people they represent.
If we're talking about undressing, there is no aggregate. Some people want something; others want them not to have it. Simple. What the former want is not illegal. So the fact they are a minority is irrelevent. Minorites have rights too. If we're talking about genuine CSAM, that very different and not even limited to undressing.
> If we're talking about genuine CSAM, that very different and not even limited to undressing.
Why would you think I was talking about anything else?
Also, "subset" != "very different"
> What the former want is not illegal. So the fact they are a minority is irrelevent. Minorites have rights too.
This is newsworthy because non-consensual undressing of images of a minor, even by an AI, already passes the requisite threshold in law and by broad social agreement.
This is not a protected minority.
Re: Grok Sexual Images Draw Rebuke, France Flags Content as Illegal
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
This seems like it should be on the HN front page. And yesterday.
Surely it us missing just because many have flagged it. But that's far short of silencing it.
I imagine—but then that is just the HN community silencing it. Maybe flagging should have some different kind of weighting?
Re: Grok Sexual Images Draw Rebuke, France Flags Content as Illegal
#84Re: Grok Sexual Images Draw Rebuke, France Flags Content as Illegal
#85Re: Grok Sexual Images Draw Rebuke, France Flags Content as Illegal
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Surely it us missing just because many have flagged it. But that's far short of silencing it.
I imagine—but then that is just the HN community silencing it. Maybe flagging should have some different kind of weighting?
I think discussions should be made immune from users flagging them if they have more than a certain amount of comments (50? 100?). If it's a problematic topic, then the administrator(s) should be able to flag it if they deem it necessary.
Re: Grok Sexual Images Draw Rebuke, France Flags Content as Illegal
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
I imagine—but then that is just the HN community silencing it. Maybe flagging should have some different kind of weighting?
I think discussions should be made immune from users flagging them if they have more than a certain amount of comments (50? 100?). If it's a problematic topic, then the administrator(s) should be able to flag it if they deem it necessary.
That would surely suffer the cobra effect.
Re: Grok Sexual Images Draw Rebuke, France Flags Content as Illegal
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
It makes sexual images of real people without their consent. That's what's breaking the law.
Is an image of someone wearing only a bikini seriously claimed to be sexual here? Not by this article, for sure. "The service prohibits pornography involving real people’s likenesses and sexual content involving minors, which is illegal to create or distribute. Still, users have prompted Grok to digitally remove clothing from photos — mostly of women — so the subjects appeared to be wearing only underwear or bikinis.…
Try doing that to your coworker and report back on how HR describes it in your offboarding meeting.
Re: Grok Sexual Images Draw Rebuke, France Flags Content as Illegal
#89What's amazing to me is that this is silenced by HN. It should be a major topic of discussion here.
What makes you say it is silenced by HN?
It got upvoted quite quickly, then flagged. The way the algorithm works, if a hot topic is flagged for some time, the story will never show up on the front page.
Re: Grok Sexual Images Draw Rebuke, France Flags Content as Illegal
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is an image of someone wearing only a bikini seriously claimed to be sexual here? Not by this article, for sure. "The service prohibits pornography involving real people’s likenesses and sexual content involving minors, which is illegal to create or distribute. Still, users have prompted Grok to digitally remove clothing from photos — mostly of women — so the subjects appeared to be wearing only underwear or bikinis.…
Try doing that to your coworker and report back on how HR describes it in your offboarding meeting.
The question is about an image not an action.