This is the new default lay of the land. Get an internship in college and job right out of it or get fucked
Tell HN: I'm having the worst career winter of my life
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Re: Tell HN: I'm having the worst career winter of my life
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the US I have noticed that the tier 2/3 tech cities SWE salaries seemed to raise a bit with covid and level off. The Tier 1 tech cities they seem to (outside of AI) have dropped a bit after the covid boom amid massive layoffs. Remote seems to be kind of independent of location but I see some remote places paying more Tier 2/3 level salaries
How do people find jobs in the US? In the UK you're usually "discovered" by a company's talent team or independent recruiters. I've had very little to no success with direct applications
In the US you direct apply typically, or you can work with a recruiter who will connect you with jobs. I don't know about being discovered by a talent team, that's never happened to me, maybe for some people.
Re: Tell HN: I'm having the worst career winter of my life
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
Meanwhile there are 5m+ devs in Europe, more than in the US apparently.
Nah, definitely not. And programmers haven't gotten any better in the last 5 years
Feel free to check on google... if you have insider info that aren't publicly available feel free to share them too!
Re: Tell HN: I'm having the worst career winter of my life
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> I think you should entertain the idea that if there is a God who cares about us, praying earnestly is a good idea If there was such then no one would go through job loss, it can't be that such God can give you a job but not be the one who took it away if it's that powerful. So if there's a God it doesn't care about us.
This is poorly thought through, as it requires a fundamental tenant: “If there is a God, he automatically has a duty to ensure there is no suffering, of any kind, for any reason, from any cause, or he is not good.”
No religion believes that. Every religion also has an explanation for suffering. Enough of the stupid cheap shots that were worn out centuries ago.
Re: Tell HN: I'm having the worst career winter of my life
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I think you should entertain the idea that if there is a God who cares about us, praying earnestly is a good idea If there was such then no one would go through job loss, it can't be that such God can give you a job but not be the one who took it away if it's that powerful. So if there's a God it doesn't care about us.
This is poorly thought through, as it requires a fundamental tenant: “If there is a God, he automatically has a duty to ensure there is no suffering, of any kind, for any reason, from any cause, or he is not good.” No religion believes that. Every religion also has an explanation for suffering. Enough of the stupid cheap shots that were worn out centuries ago.
Every religion has a cop out for the fact the same God who is so gracious to save your life is also the God responsible for giving kids cancer.
It's a cheap shot because those explanations are absurdly cheap in their logic on how a ultimately-powerful being is there to save us while also being the master of all suffering.
> “If there is a God, he automatically has a duty to ensure there is no suffering, of any kind, for any reason, from any cause, or he is not good.”
Yes? If there's an all-loving God then it also being the source of all suffering does say it's not good. Why would a morally good being with this power decide to give horrible diseases to innocent kids? Or take your job away, and force you to pray for it so you can get another? It's a bit sadistic.
So again, if there's a God it doesn't care at all about us.
Re: Tell HN: I'm having the worst career winter of my life
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is poorly thought through, as it requires a fundamental tenant: “If there is a God, he automatically has a duty to ensure there is no suffering, of any kind, for any reason, from any cause, or he is not good.” No religion believes that. Every religion also has an explanation for suffering. Enough of the stupid cheap shots that were worn out centuries ago.
Every religion has a cop out for the fact the same God who is so gracious to save your life is also the God responsible for giving kids cancer. It's a cheap shot because those explanations are absurdly cheap in their logic on how a ultimately-powerful being is there to save us while also being the master of all suffering. > “If there is a God, he automatically has a duty to ensure there is no suffering, of any kind,…
> It's a cheap shot because those explanations are absurdly cheap in their logic on how a ultimately-powerful being is there to save us while also being the master of all suffering.
"It's a cheap shot because it's cheap" is not an argument, the logic is circular.
> Why would a morally good being with this power decide to give horrible diseases to innocent kids? Or take your job away, and force you to pray for it so you can get another? It's a bit sadistic.
If a parent tells you don't date somebody, they're a bad fit; and you do so anyway, and they were a bad fit; do you blame your parents for not locking you in their basement to prevent it? Permissive will versus active will is Philosophy 101.
Re: Tell HN: I'm having the worst career winter of my life
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
Every religion has a cop out for the fact the same God who is so gracious to save your life is also the God responsible for giving kids cancer. It's a cheap shot because those explanations are absurdly cheap in their logic on how a ultimately-powerful being is there to save us while also being the master of all suffering. > “If there is a God, he automatically has a duty to ensure there is no suffering, of any kind,…
> It's a cheap shot because those explanations are absurdly cheap in their logic on how a ultimately-powerful being is there to save us while also being the master of all suffering. "It's a cheap shot because it's cheap" is not an argument, the logic is circular. > Why would a morally good being with this power decide to give horrible diseases to innocent kids? Or take your job away, and force you to pray for it so y…
Read it again, I said: It's a cheap shot because the religious explanations to suffering are cheap, they are retconning a fundamentally flawed logic that is not possible to exist unless you invent a yet more convoluted reason. They still do not explain why the suffering can only be abated by being more pious, a good being wouldn't make you beg on their feet to show you deserve to be spared from the suffering it created.
So again, if there's a God, it doesn't care. If your God exists and makes you have to pray for it to solve the suffering it created, it's a sadistic one.
Re: Tell HN: I'm having the worst career winter of my life
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your comment honors your handle, That being said, this is about unemployment not affordability. I can afford where I am, if I had a job
If you can afford it, carry on! But your other comments suggest otherwise. Hypothetically being able to afford something if things were hypothetically different is not an indicator of what is affordable in reality.
> Hypothetically being able to afford something if things were hypothetically different is not an indicator of what is affordable in reality.
unemployment is an extraordinary circumstance for me. Extraordinary circumstances affect affordability in an extraordinary way.
even with employment far below my usual pay I can afford where I am.
Re: Tell HN: I'm having the worst career winter of my life
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It's a cheap shot because those explanations are absurdly cheap in their logic on how a ultimately-powerful being is there to save us while also being the master of all suffering. "It's a cheap shot because it's cheap" is not an argument, the logic is circular. > Why would a morally good being with this power decide to give horrible diseases to innocent kids? Or take your job away, and force you to pray for it so y…
Read it again, I said: It's a cheap shot because the religious explanations to suffering are cheap, they are retconning a fundamentally flawed logic that is not possible to exist unless you invent a yet more convoluted reason. They still do not explain why the suffering can only be abated by being more pious, a good being wouldn't make you beg on their feet to show you deserve to be spared from the suffering it creat…
Your argument assumes that an all-powerful being that permits suffering must be the source of suffering and must be sadistic. Those are both specific metaphysical claims that require their own defenses. As one example: Do your parents, who allow you to suffer learning in school, not care about you?
You're treating it as self-evident when there's nothing self-evident about it. The free will defense, soul-making theodicy, and skeptical theism all offer coherent responses. You don't have to find them convincing, but 'I don't buy it' isn't the same as 'it's logically impossible.'
Re: Tell HN: I'm having the worst career winter of my life
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
How do people find jobs in the US? In the UK you're usually "discovered" by a company's talent team or independent recruiters. I've had very little to no success with direct applications
In the US you direct apply typically, or you can work with a recruiter who will connect you with jobs. I don't know about being discovered by a talent team, that's never happened to me, maybe for some people.
any recruiters you'd recommend?