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Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

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post #39

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whats wrong with usb-a? I feels more sturdy and less likely to have connection issues then usb-c in my experience.

> whats wrong with usb-a? Which way up it should go.

It's very weird that USB-C solved the problem of "we can't tell which way to insert the plug" by mandating that both orientations should work, as opposed to just making the exterior of the plug as asymmetrical as the interior.

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

#82
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

whats wrong with usb-a? I feels more sturdy and less likely to have connection issues then usb-c in my experience.

> whats wrong with usb-a? Which way up it should go.

Where the logo is.

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

#83

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The person (committee?) who came up with USB A needs sanctions. And Apple Needs more, for putting power buttons and key ports at that back.

Which rear facing "key port" on a Mac are you suggesting should be on the front?

> Which rear facing "key port" on a Mac are you suggesting should be on the front?

USB.

I used iMacs, mini and pro machines. Any ports in the front would be nice.

My m4 mini does have some front ports. It’s less of an issue now with usb-c but the iMac presumably still rear mounts them.

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

#84
post #77

Is the side to fill up evenly balanced between cars in average? I imagine there is value to make it close to 50/50 to simplify the logistics at the gas station. I was thinking car manufacturers perhaps had agreed so that some brands do it one way and some do it another

Even if there was a single side for filling, direction of approach being random is enough for 50/50 utilization of the pumps — so I’m not convinced there’s a pressure to spread which side the tank is on.

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

#85
post #82

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> whats wrong with usb-a? Which way up it should go.

Where the logo is.

And when the port is vertical and you can’t see it?

I’m surprised how tolerable people seemed to find Apples rear ports.

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

#86

2020s UX "experts" would bury the entire instrument cluster under a hamburger menu if they could get away with it. The fuel gauge would be moved three menus deep and thus impossible to find, then removed in subsequent model years when their telemetry data "proved" no one used it anymore.

In the end, these engineers' job is make profit for the company. If the customer allows for all this crap, and still buys cars/fridges/tvs with such horrible UX, then it's the way forward.

>If the customer allows for all this crap

You imply they ever had a choice.

Companies like Tesla and Rivian pioneered the trend of bringing webshit-as-an-instrument cluster to the mainstream. Other car companies saw dollar signs, rode their coattails and immediately copied it.

What is a customer supposed to do? Buy a Mitsubishi Mirage? Build their own instrument cluster?

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

#87
post #54
post #6

On cars without the arrow they often follow the convention where the gas filler handle is depicted on the same side of the gas icon as the filler door is in the car.

I've heard that the gauge always points towards the side the cap is on when pointing to empty

Far too subtle

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> whats wrong with usb-a? Which way up it should go.

It's very weird that USB-C solved the problem of "we can't tell which way to insert the plug" by mandating that both orientations should work, as opposed to just making the exterior of the plug as asymmetrical as the interior.

Less weird as they get smaller. Call it an accessibility thing if you like, but I think it's better for everyone and congrats to them. Isn't this what technology is supposed to do, make things easier?

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

#90

2020s UX "experts" would bury the entire instrument cluster under a hamburger menu if they could get away with it. The fuel gauge would be moved three menus deep and thus impossible to find, then removed in subsequent model years when their telemetry data "proved" no one used it anymore.

BMW would put it behind a subscription
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