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ChatGPT conversations still lack timestamps after years of requests

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Re: ChatGPT conversations still lack timestamps after years of requests

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Post by vasco »

madeofpalk wrote: post #80
Workaccount2 wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a non-trivial number of people who get an adverse reaction to anything technical, including the language of technical - numbers. Numbers are the language of confusion, not getting it, feeling inadequate, nerds and losers, stupid math, and the "cold dead machines". The thing is that people who are fine with numbers will still use those products anyway, perhaps mildly annoyed. People who hate numbers will feel…

And so the assertion here is that "when a message was sent" is too technical? I think we need to give people slightly more credit. If this is true, maybe its because we keep infantalising them?

Well the infantilization is directly in the sentence "regular people". Distinguishing the big brains from the plebes.

Re: ChatGPT conversations still lack timestamps after years of requests

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Post by bongodongobob »

bobse wrote: post #15
Workaccount2 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regular people hate numbers. Not a joke. To capture a wide audience you want to avoid numbers, among other technical niceties.

Should they be allowed anywhere near a computer?

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Re: ChatGPT conversations still lack timestamps after years of requests

#83

Post by madeofpalk »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #7
Valid3840 wrote: post #2

ChatGPT still does not display per-message timestamps (time of day / date) in conversations. This has been requested consistently since early 2023 on the OpenAI community forum, with hundreds of comments and upvotes and deleted threads, yet remains unimplemented. Do any of you could think of a reason (UX-wise) for it not to be displayed?

Regular people hate numbers. Not a joke. To capture a wide audience you want to avoid numbers, among other technical niceties.

Isn't it just simpler to believe that ChatGPT doesn't have timestamps because... they never added them? It wasn't in the original MVP prototype and they've just never gotten around to it?

Surely there's enough people working in product development here to recognise this pattern of never getting around to fixing low-hanging fruit in a product.

Re: ChatGPT conversations still lack timestamps after years of requests

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Post by observationist »

madeofpalk wrote: post #83
Workaccount2 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regular people hate numbers. Not a joke. To capture a wide audience you want to avoid numbers, among other technical niceties.

Isn't it just simpler to believe that ChatGPT doesn't have timestamps because... they never added them? It wasn't in the original MVP prototype and they've just never gotten around to it? Surely there's enough people working in product development here to recognise this pattern of never getting around to fixing low-hanging fruit in a product.

They exist in the exported data. It'd require a weekend's worth of effort to roll out a new feature that gives users a toggle to turn timestamps off and on.

It's trivial, but we will never see it. The people in charge of UX/UI don't care about what users say they want, they all know better.

Re: ChatGPT conversations still lack timestamps after years of requests

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Post by rdiddly »

kingstnap wrote: post #68
vasco wrote: post #27

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> Regular people hate numbers What does this even mean

It's something extremely pervasive in modern design language. It actually infuriates me to no end. There are many many many instances where you should use numbers but we get vague bullshit descriptions instead. My classic example is that Samsung phones show charging as Slow, Fast, Very fast, Super fast charging. They could just use watts like a sane person. Internally of course everything is actually watts and variou…

It's all rather dumb, but your examples are really counterexamples, because a watt is sadly not something most people understand. One would at minimum need to have passed a physics class, and even that doesn't necessarily leave a person with an intuitive, visceral understanding of what a watt is, feels like, can do. I appreciate my older Samsung phone that just converts it into expected time until full charge. That's the number that matters to me anyway, and I can make my own value judgment about how "super" the fastness is. But I do agree with your point and would be pissed if they dumbed it down to Later, Soon, Very Soon and Super Soon.

Speaking of time and timestamps, which I would've thought were straightforward, I get irked to see them dumbed-down to "ago" values e.g. an IM sent "10 minutes ago" or worse "a day ago." Like what time of day, a day ago?

Re: ChatGPT conversations still lack timestamps after years of requests

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Post by GaryBluto »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #7
Valid3840 wrote: post #2

ChatGPT still does not display per-message timestamps (time of day / date) in conversations. This has been requested consistently since early 2023 on the OpenAI community forum, with hundreds of comments and upvotes and deleted threads, yet remains unimplemented. Do any of you could think of a reason (UX-wise) for it not to be displayed?

Regular people hate numbers. Not a joke. To capture a wide audience you want to avoid numbers, among other technical niceties.

Makes sense. ChatGPT is the McDonalds of LLMs.

Re: ChatGPT conversations still lack timestamps after years of requests

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Post by cpncrunch »

HWR_14 wrote: post #70
johnfn wrote: post #55

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Do regular people not use any mainstream messaging app - Messenger, iMessage, etc?

Both of those by default hide timestamps

I just checked Messenger, and it shows timestamps under each message. I didn't change any settings to get that.

Re: ChatGPT conversations still lack timestamps after years of requests

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Post by throw-12-16 »

vasco wrote: post #27
Workaccount2 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regular people hate numbers. Not a joke. To capture a wide audience you want to avoid numbers, among other technical niceties.

> Regular people hate numbers What does this even mean

Most people are dumb as rocks and ux/ui is built around that fact.
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