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Absolutely unacceptable behavior. Wild that Americans are so distracted by pointless social issues that they haven’t even realized the ruling elite are treating them like cattle. Absolutely pathetic.
America is huge and there's a lot of exceptionally stupid people especially in the South and Midwest. Not much I can do about that over here in the coastal Northeast.
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I wonder if Flock + Cyble can be sued for fraud. There are 5 elements in a fraud: Misrepresentation of Fact Knowledge of Falsity Intent to Induce Reliance Justifiable Reliance Resulting Damages
You would need damages
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I wonder if Flock + Cyble can be sued for fraud. There are 5 elements in a fraud: Misrepresentation of Fact Knowledge of Falsity Intent to Induce Reliance Justifiable Reliance Resulting Damages
Cloudflare would have to bring that suit since they were the ones defrauded. The site owners probably can't sue Cloudflare because of their contract. So the site owners probably have to go basic "tortious interference" and be ready to show actual damages.
At first that seems pretty unlikely, but I could see them wanting to nip this in the bud so it doesn't become more common.
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One long-standing code is that they moderate YC companies less on HN, allowing criticisms like yours to stand: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34320816 To HN's credit I haven't seen this rule violated. For example I wouldn't have known it was a YC company if not for your comment.
> One long-standing code is that they moderate YC companies less on HN, allowing criticisms like yours to stand: Well, that’s what dang says he does. There’s no transparency and no publicly available data that would demonstrate adherence to the rule. > To HN's credit I haven't seen this rule violated. I don’t think you’d observe anything different if it were violated.
If the mods were in the practice of moderating like this, yes, it would almost certainly be noticed by someone whose post/comment got deleted.
HN, like every other community on the Internet, relies on trust between the users and mods. If you don't trust them, you can always leave.
Absolutely unacceptable behavior. Wild that Americans are so distracted by pointless social issues that they haven’t even realized the ruling elite are treating them like cattle. Absolutely pathetic.
“If (people are) worried about privacy, a license plate reader is the dumbest way to do surveillance. You have a cell phone. A cell phone knows your exact location at all times,” he said. “If you don’t trust law enforcement to do their job, that’s actually what you’re concerned about, and I’m not going to help people get over that.”
Just means I have to have a Faraday bag alongside my polesaw and high-powered laser. I can compete with your shitty outdated Android SoM and a shitty Raspberry Pi webcam in an enclosure.
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Being able to say "Our server never sees user-input license plate numbers", even though from a technical perspective the hash is just as identifiable, does have value. Even though it offers no additional privacy, it does let non-technically-minded users and so on feel safer, and that's valuable.
The value is being able to mislead your users
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> One long-standing code is that they moderate YC companies less on HN, allowing criticisms like yours to stand: Well, that’s what dang says he does. There’s no transparency and no publicly available data that would demonstrate adherence to the rule. > To HN's credit I haven't seen this rule violated. I don’t think you’d observe anything different if it were violated.
> I don’t think you’d observe anything different if it were violated. If the mods were in the practice of moderating like this, yes, it would almost certainly be noticed by someone whose post/comment got deleted. HN, like every other community on the Internet, relies on trust between the users and mods. If you don't trust them, you can always leave.
Would it?
HN has all sorts of sneaky punishments to keep people from noticing what's going on. Shadow bans, limiting how many comments you can post per day, sometimes outright refusing to serve you pages with a "Sorry." error, and even flagging isn't visible to the person whose comment got flagged. HN doesn't notify you in any way for any of this. How often do you check your comments while logged out? That includes old comments, of course, which need to be rechecked on a periodic basis. Archives provide some limitation to how much manipulation can happen, but flagging is a thing, can be abused by anyone with enough karma, and provides a lot of plausible deniability for dang should he opt for a stealthier approach to moderation.
Even this account is shadowbanned - and this comment automatically flagged - because I had the audacity to create an account with a VPN, in a world where VPNs are a requirement for unrestricted Internet access for a growing number of people living in "democratic" countries. The only way I know this is through testing, of course, because HN gives no indication that your account will be shadowbanned on creation.
> The site’s only input fields accept license plate numbers (which are hashed client-side before transmission and cannot be harvested) License plates are trivially short, hashing them accomplishes no additional level of privacy if the hashes could be bruted in seconds on an antique GPU.
(Or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepper_(cryptography) off you want to be fancy)
This is a Y Combinator company? https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/flock-safety dang/tomhow, does Y Combinator have a code of ethics that comes into play when one of your funding recipients does something unethical and/or illegal like this?
One long-standing code is that they moderate YC companies less on HN, allowing criticisms like yours to stand: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34320816 To HN's credit I haven't seen this rule violated. For example I wouldn't have known it was a YC company if not for your comment.