Great compilation. The ".cgi" in the URL clearly tells me this is an old collection of links :-)
Another fun esoteric music language missing in the comments is ORCA: https://git.sr.ht/~rabbits/orca
Programming languages used for music
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#82I really hope that Max becomes fully accessible in a text based format one day. It's so cool and I've spent a few months randomly through the years building neat plugins for Ableton but, for me, it would be so much stickier if it was code. Especially now with AI assistance, Claude can still be helpful but it hallucinates a lot harder when trying to describe visual code.
Would love to see this, as someone who has been heavily using Live since 2006 and is finally getting into proper coding in middle-age. Having a way to augment Live in a text-based coding format would be greatly welcome.
While I'm not holding my breath, Ableton the company are transitioning into a steward-ownership model in which the stewards will have decision rights over the company. So I have hope that it will continue to grow in ways that are less affected by market considerations and that are a little more opinionated and specialized. Not to mention that Ableton own Cycling 74 (creators of Max/MSP).
So it's not out of the realm of possibility.
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#83I kind of want to create music programmatically but so far it has been way too difficult. I also can barely find anything useful via oldschool google search anymore. I am almost stuck like with MIDI here ...
Strudel is my favorite, it has pretty syntax, and their interactive guide (with inline REPL) is extremely well done too.
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#84Almost an esolang, but orca is an amazing example of spatial programming for music production (GH https://github.com/hundredrabbits/Orca and video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSFrBFBd7vY to see it in action)
That screenshot is super interesting, never seen anything like it.
It's giving me some ideas for a TUI video editor using that grid interface. What a cool project.
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#85I really hope that Max becomes fully accessible in a text based format one day. It's so cool and I've spent a few months randomly through the years building neat plugins for Ableton but, for me, it would be so much stickier if it was code. Especially now with AI assistance, Claude can still be helpful but it hallucinates a lot harder when trying to describe visual code.
Would love to see this, as someone who has been heavily using Live since 2006 and is finally getting into proper coding in middle-age. Having a way to augment Live in a text-based coding format would be greatly welcome. While I'm not holding my breath, Ableton the company are transitioning into a steward-ownership model in which the stewards will have decision rights over the company. So I have hope that it will cont…
you can use Javascript with Max. It's a bit unwielding in its handling of multi-JS-file projects, but it can be done.
Not everything in Max is exposed to your code, but you really can do a lot from the JS side of things.
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#86In order, the most popular ones of these are probably * Max. It's built into a popular DAW, and is shockingly capable as an actual programming language too. The entire editor for the Haken line of products is written in Max. * Pure Data or Supercollider. * Csound. Not ordering things like Scala or LilyPond that are much more domain-specific.
When I was first introduced to Max it was on a Mac SE in 1989, and I really only used it for saving & restoring patches (on my SY77 and U110) until someone walked me through how it really worked. I didn't understand what it could do, and I rejected it at first because it was too open-ended for me to see utility. Lol. How things changed after that.
What really blows my mind is that I wasn't at all put off by the tiny little Mac monitor, it just seemed normal. No way I could work with such a small b&w screen today I'd go mad. (weirdly I feel less creative than i did in the 1980's and NOW i have near infinite recording & mixing options. The irony.)
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#87I love seeing a Definition List (DL/DT/DD html tags) in the wild. Often more hassle than its worth to make them appear the way you want, but semantically pleasing and underused.
Their structure in the markup can be a bit confusing imo - something more like a inside a or a inside a would be much nicer imo.
The spec even mentions [0] that you're allowed to use s to group dt/dd pairs for styling purposes.
[0]: https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/grouping-content.html...
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
Would love to see this, as someone who has been heavily using Live since 2006 and is finally getting into proper coding in middle-age. Having a way to augment Live in a text-based coding format would be greatly welcome. While I'm not holding my breath, Ableton the company are transitioning into a steward-ownership model in which the stewards will have decision rights over the company. So I have hope that it will cont…
you can use Javascript with Max. It's a bit unwielding in its handling of multi-JS-file projects, but it can be done. Not everything in Max is exposed to your code, but you really can do a lot from the JS side of things.
I had no idea! And I'm learning Javascript, so that's a nice coincidence.
I was deep into Max/MSP around 2010 and made a personal vow to leave it alone. The potential to reinvent the wheel and build tools instead of completing records was too much.
Now I'm in a more mature place, so I could see myself diving back into it eventually.
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#89Max is great.
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is pretty incredible to watch. I initially thought she must be pulling some kind of trick to make that look so fluid, but the fact that she is making very small typos and correcting them as she goes make it look very believable. This is really the first time I've watched someone use one of these tools and it feel like a musician using a new kind of instrument.
I think the videos are done live, but she plans them out, she isn't just winging it.
she is a producer, not making anything innovative music wise (she must have done similar things thousands of times), with a long experience in live music, and she is a/?the? core dev of the tool she is using.
honestly i think the planning is at most a few minutes long (once she decides what she will go for) then she probably let the experience talk.