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Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by rckclmbr »

Etheryte wrote: post #28

To put this into perspective, What.CD [0] was widely considered to be the music library of Alexandria, unparalleled in both its high quality standard and it's depth. What had in the ballpark of a few million torrents when it got raided and shut down. Anna's rip of Spotify includes roughly 186 million unique records. Granted, the tail end is a mixed bag of bot music and whatnot, but the scale is staggering. [0] https:…

You can’t talk about what.cd without talking about its precursor OiNks Pink Palace. Even Trent Reznor was public about what an amazing place it was. Music aside, the community existing just for the shared love of music and not for any other kind of monetary or influencer gain is what set it apart. We just don’t have those kinds of communities for music online anymore

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by leetbulb »

VanTheBrand wrote: post #58
Etheryte wrote: post #28

To put this into perspective, What.CD [0] was widely considered to be the music library of Alexandria, unparalleled in both its high quality standard and it's depth. What had in the ballpark of a few million torrents when it got raided and shut down. Anna's rip of Spotify includes roughly 186 million unique records. Granted, the tail end is a mixed bag of bot music and whatnot, but the scale is staggering. [0] https:…

True but What.cd had a tremendous amount of notable music not available on Spotify though because it was also sourced from cds, bootlegs, vinyl, tape etc whereas Spotify only includes music explicitly licensed for streaming.

Yes. RIP a ton of very rare material. What.cd has a special place in my heart.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by zzzeek »

great. Spotify just removes things all the time (things I actively listen to and work on for my jazz practices, one day just go "poof" because they didn't want to pay the record company anymore), and they are not as a company deserving of the role of "keeper of all the world's music". They don't give a shit and they'd vastly prefer we all listen to their AI generated royalty free crap and Joe Rogan.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by frytaped »

It seems to be that the metadata doesn't include the lyrics, probably because they are provided by Musixmatch. It would have been nice to have a database of lyrics linked to ISRCs. AFAIK Lrclib doesn't support downloading lyrics for a given ISRC.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by lukan »

mawax wrote: post #23
frereubu wrote: post #8

Site is down for me. Archive link: https://archive.is/jf3HW

Probably not down, but blocked by your ISP. Try a VPN. Same thing happens here.

Yes, blocked. This is what I see in germany without a VPN

https://notice.cuii.info/

"Their buisness model is based on copyright infringement"

Well, where to complain that Anna's Archive ain't a buisness?

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by thaumasiotes »

ghostie_plz wrote: post #54
ipsum2 wrote: post #31

Can someone explain why C#/Db (major/minor) is the third most popular key? Very unexpected for me, since its relatively more difficult to play.

Both C#m and Db can be played on piano using only the black keys (skipping the 3rd note of the scale). This makes them easy keys for beginners. I'm not sure if that's the reason, but it could be related. Anecdotally, I know a few vocalists that sound great in these keys and use them as a starting point

> Both C#m and Db can be played on piano using only the black keys (skipping the 3rd note of the scale)

For the major scale, there are 7 notes in the scale and only 5 black keys; you also need to skip ti, the 7th note.

For the minor scale ("C#m"), it's worse; only four of the five black keys are part of that scale.

And I would have thought that something intended to be played only on the black keys would be described as using a pentatonic scale anyway?

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by Mindwipe »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #72
crazygringo wrote: post #11

This is insane. I definitely was not aware Spotify DRM had been cracked to enable downloading at scale like this. The thing is, this doesn't even seem particularly useful for average consumers/listeners, since Spotify itself is so convenient, and trying to locate individual tracks in massive torrent files of presumably 10,000's of tracks each sounds horrible. But this does seem like it will be a godsend for researche…

> I definitely was not aware Spotify DRM had been cracked to enable downloading at scale like this. Do they have DRM at all? Youtube and Pandora don't.

YouTube Music uses Widevine.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by pjerem »

yegle wrote: post #34

Not that we should, but it's technically feasible to have a music streaming server with the torrent as the backend, and selectively download the part of the torrent in respond to on-demand streaming request from the client.

Yeah we shouldn’t. But we may.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by pjerem »

krick wrote: post #71

Uh, cool, I guess? I want to applaud that, but, first off, unless you are OpenAI or Facebook, it is not exactly plausibly easy to participate in the festivities. Even if I had spare 300 TB laying around, how the fuck do I download that? But, more importantly, I cannot even say "good for you", because I don't actually think it is good for Anna's Archive. I wouldn't touch that thing, if I was them. Do we even have any…

BitTorrent protocol doesn’t force you to download all of the files of a torrent :)

Now imagine a dedicated music client that will download and stream (and share, because we are polite) only the needed files :)

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Post by ChadNauseam »

WD-42 wrote: post #16
basisword wrote: post #6

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Nobody is gonna download a 300TB torrent just to get the latest Taylor Swift album. There are much easier avenues than that. What’s actually scummy is Spotify paying artists $1 per 1000 streams. Buy CDs. Use Bandcamp.

> What’s actually scummy is Spotify paying artists $1 per 1000 streams.

My spotify wrapped says I listened for 50,000 minutes this year. Assuming 2 minutes per song, that's 25,000 streams. I paid them $110, aka $0.004/stream. Assuming I'm a typical user, they obviously could not afford to pay any more than that per stream.

I googled "spotify pay per listen" and the first result is a reddit comment saying "The average payout on Spotify is only $0.004 per stream." The google AI overview says "Spotify [..] pays artists a fraction of a cent, typically $0.003 to $0.005 per stream". So I'll assume it's something in that ballpark.

So it seems like Spotify's payouts are completely reasonable, given their pricing. Is my logic wrong somewhere?

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