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Verizon is Selling Your Personal Data

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Re: Verizon is Selling Your Personal Data

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Heh, that's why I always fake address details when I'm checking out cable or DSL options. Of course they're going to use the personal information you enter for marketing purposes, that's why they ask for specifics like apartment number and your mobile number that they don't need to determine service availability.

that's a clever way of sticking it to them, jrock. i feel sorry for my neighbors already.

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Re: Verizon is Selling Your Personal Data

#82

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Heh, that's why I always fake address details when I'm checking out cable or DSL options. Of course they're going to use the personal information you enter for marketing purposes, that's why they ask for specifics like apartment number and your mobile number that they don't need to determine service availability.

that's a clever way of sticking it to them, jrock. i feel sorry for my neighbors already.

You don't use valid addresses, of course. If you're in apartment 2R, you say apartment 10B or something.

Re: Verizon is Selling Your Personal Data

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I called Verizon and they said this is a phishing scam... Has anyone else independently verified the original claim with Verizon, other than through their website/privacy TOS?

Wow. They claim that a page on the verizonwireless.com/vzw.com domain with a class 3 SSL certificate is a "phishing scam". This is probably some form of scummy damage control - convincing uninformed customers that it had nothing to do with them.

Re: Verizon is Selling Your Personal Data

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I received an email a while back from them basically saying they were going to start taking privileges with my data if I didn't go to a page and opt-out. I don't remember the text, but that was the gist. [Edit] Did some digging and the email subject was: Important Update Regarding Your Privacy It has various sections on what will be used and how with a call to action at the bottom listing your options. Opening text:…

I received the same kind of email from AT&T awhile ago. I immediately called them up, and asked to opt-out. After 30 minutes on the phone, the representative told me that the "feature" hasn't been rolled out yet, and I should call back a month later. Guess what? I completely forgot about it. That was probably the intention all along.... Thanks for the reminder, though!

I had a similar experience with Clear (wireless) and the binding arbitration clause in their ToS. When I called to opt out (because one cannot do so online, of course :-/ ) I was transferred 6 times and in the end the drone finally gave up and just asked if putting a note in "my file" would be sufficient. At that point, I think we were equally frustrated with one another and I settled.

But I can easily imagine some lawyer-type dreamed up such a clause but failed to tell anyone else in the business about it.

Re: Verizon is Selling Your Personal Data

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Thanks for the PSA. While I understand why these things tend to be opt-out by default, I'm surprised there was no email from Verizon updating users about these new settings with a link to opt-out if they wanted to. I used to think that the telecom industry is a lot more regulated than social network companies like Facebook, but I guess that's not really true!

They are definitely more regulated than social network companies, fortunately though they've captured the regulator as predicted by economics so they get to seek rent instead of worrying about regulators. The telecom industry has so effectively captured their regulator that when they are caught tapping phones without warrant they are exempted from lawsuits instead of prosecuted vigorously. If you offered a non-compli…

The telcos weren't wiretapping for profit, but as an agent of the government. You got the direction of power backwards.

Re: Verizon is Selling Your Personal Data

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> And app.net items are effectively just long tweets. App.net doesn't have a limit on message length?

256 characters, IIRC

Why? Just to be like twitter, but different, with no comprehension of why the Twitter limit exists?

Re: Verizon is Selling Your Personal Data

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A related story: I was recently shopping around for a new ISP. One I considered was Verizon FiOS. In order to see the prices in my area, I had to enter my address. Two weeks later, I got a letter in the mail. Written outside on the envelope was something like: "We noticed you were checking out our website! Here's a special offer just for you..." It's not the same as what OP posted, but it certainly left me creeped ou…

Why are you so creeped out that they sent you a piece of advertising by mail after you gave them your address? It'd hardly be surprising these days if you received spam after giving away your e-mail address.

It is still abusive, to represent that they need it for transactional purposes and then to spam you with it instead.
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