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The post-GeForce era: What if Nvidia abandons PC gaming?

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Re: The post-GeForce era: What if Nvidia abandons PC gaming?

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Post by j45 »

It wouldn't be unheard of.

Qualcomm before they made all the chips they do today, ran a pretty popular and successful email client called Eudora.

Doing one thing well can lead to doing bigger things well.

More realistically, if the top end chips go towards the most demanding work, there might be more than enough lower grade silicon that can easily keep the gaming world going.

Plus, gamers rarely stop thinking in terms of gaming, and those insights helped develop GPUs into what they are today, and may have some more light to shine in the future. Where we see gaming and AI coming together, whether it's in completely and actually immersive worlds, etc, is pretty interesting.

Update: Adding https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eudora_(email_client)

Re: The post-GeForce era: What if Nvidia abandons PC gaming?

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Post by recursive »

ulrashida wrote: post #42
coldtea wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You'd prefer folks go to the far more injurious mobile gaming space? No, I prefer them touching grass and talking to some people, or getting a less addictive and time-wasting hobby.

That's a worthwhile view, but unlikely to occur. You may as well wish away casinos and alcohol while you're at it.

Ok, done.

Re: The post-GeForce era: What if Nvidia abandons PC gaming?

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Post by jeltz »

ronsor wrote: post #57
batiudrami wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Crazy take, in the late 90s/early 00s your GPU could be obsolete 9 months after buying. The “optimisation” you talk about was the CPU in the ps4 generation was so weak and tech was moving so fast that any pc bought in 2015 onwards would easily brute force overpower anything that had been built for that generation.

> Crazy take, in the late 90s/early 00s your GPU could be obsolete 9 months after buying. Not because the developers were lazy, but because newer GPUs were that much better.

There were lazy devs back then too but I feel lazy devs have become the norm now.

Re: The post-GeForce era: What if Nvidia abandons PC gaming?

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Post by woah »

forrestthewoods wrote: post #74
sombragris wrote: post #33

I doubt that this would ever happen. But... If it does, I think it would be a good thing. The reason is that it would finally motivate game developers to be more realistic in their minimum hardware requirements, enabling games to be playable on onboard GPUs. Right now, most recent games (for example, many games built on Unreal Engine 5) are unplayable on onboard GPUs. Game and engine devs simply don't bother anymore…

> I think it would be a good thing. This is an insane thing to say. > Game and engine devs simply don't bother anymore to optimize for the low end All games carefully consider the total addressable market. You can build a low end game that runs great on total ass garbage onboard GPU. Suffice to say these gamers are not an audience that spend a lot of money on games. It’s totally fine and good to build premium content…

I always chuckle when I see an entitled online rant from a gamer. Nothing against them, it's just humorous. In this one, we have hard-nosed defense of free market principles in the first part worthy of Reagan himself, followed by a Marxist appeal for someone (who?) to "make hardware available at an affordable price!".

Re: The post-GeForce era: What if Nvidia abandons PC gaming?

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Post by georgefrowny »

sombragris wrote: post #33

I doubt that this would ever happen. But... If it does, I think it would be a good thing. The reason is that it would finally motivate game developers to be more realistic in their minimum hardware requirements, enabling games to be playable on onboard GPUs. Right now, most recent games (for example, many games built on Unreal Engine 5) are unplayable on onboard GPUs. Game and engine devs simply don't bother anymore…

One wonders what would happen in a SHtF situation or someone stubs their toe on the demolition charges switch at TSMC and all the TwinScans get minced.

Would there be a huge drive towards debloating software to run again on random old computers people find in cupboards?

Re: The post-GeForce era: What if Nvidia abandons PC gaming?

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Post by rafaelgoncalves »

stacktraceyo wrote: post #64
coldtea wrote: post #15

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Gaming got me into coding. Messing with Warcraft 3 world editor back when there were a lot of dota clones. Good times. I think blizzard had their own language JASS that was very lua like

so nice memories, and the same occurred to me, but was writing macros and hotkeys for Ragnarok Online (in Pascal/Delphi and VB/6)

Re: The post-GeForce era: What if Nvidia abandons PC gaming?

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Post by flopsamjetsam »

j45 wrote: post #81

It wouldn't be unheard of. Qualcomm before they made all the chips they do today, ran a pretty popular and successful email client called Eudora. Doing one thing well can lead to doing bigger things well. More realistically, if the top end chips go towards the most demanding work, there might be more than enough lower grade silicon that can easily keep the gaming world going. Plus, gamers rarely stop thinking in term…

I had completely forgotten about the existence of Eudora. Thanks friend, that lead me down a mental rabbit hole.

Re: The post-GeForce era: What if Nvidia abandons PC gaming?

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Post by justsomehnguy »

batiudrami wrote: post #51
Bridged7756 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True. Optimization is completely dead. Long gone are the days of a game being amazing because the devs managed to pull crazy graphics for the current hardware. Nowadays a game is only poorly optimized if it's literally unplayable or laggy, and you're forced to constantly upgrade your hardware with no discernible performance gain otherwise.

Crazy take, in the late 90s/early 00s your GPU could be obsolete 9 months after buying. The “optimisation” you talk about was the CPU in the ps4 generation was so weak and tech was moving so fast that any pc bought in 2015 onwards would easily brute force overpower anything that had been built for that generation.

> your GPU could be obsolete 9 months after buying

Or even before hitting the shelves, cue Trio3D and Mystique, but tha's another story.

Re: The post-GeForce era: What if Nvidia abandons PC gaming?

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Post by chasd00 »

jaapz wrote: post #12

AMD will be very happy when they do. They are already making great cards, currently running an RX7800XT (or something like that), and it's amazing. Linux support is great too

My very gaming experienced and data oriented 13 year old wants to switch from Nvidia to AMD. I don’t understand all his reasons/numbers but I suppose that’s as good an endorsement as any for AMDs GPUs.
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