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Re: CUDA Tile Open Sourced

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post #71

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Approximately nobody writing high performance code for AI training is using Windows. Why should they target it?

As desktop, and sometimes that is the only thing available. When is the Year of NPUs on Linux?

This targets Blackwell GPUs so I’m not sure what you are talking about

Re: CUDA Tile Open Sourced

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post #75
post #47

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Yes, but Latner said multiple time it's closed until it matures (he apparently did this with llvm and swift too). So not unusal. His open source target is end of 2026. In all fairness, I have 0 doubts that he would deliver.

Given Swift for Tensorflow, lets see how this one goes.

That one did get open sourced but nobody ended up wanting to use it

Re: CUDA Tile Open Sourced

#83
post #71

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As desktop, and sometimes that is the only thing available. When is the Year of NPUs on Linux?

This targets Blackwell GPUs so I’m not sure what you are talking about

The same, hardware available for Windows users, as work devices at several companies, used by researchers that work at said companies,

https://www.pcspecialist.de/kundenspezifische-laptops/nvidia...

Which as usual, kind of work but not really, in GNU/Linux.

Re: CUDA Tile Open Sourced

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AMD screwed up so badly.

Hundreds of thousands of developers with access to a global communication network were not stopped by AMD. Why act like dependents or wait for some bright star of consensus unless the intent is really about getting the work for free? We don't have to wait for singular companies or foundations to fix ecosystem problems. Only the means of coordination are needed. https://prizeforge.com isn't there yet, but it is alread…

>We don't have to wait for singular companies or foundations to fix ecosystem problems.

Geohot has been working on this for about a year, and every roadblock he's encountered he has had to damn near pester Lisa Su about getting drivers fixed. If you want the CUDA replacement that would work on AMD, you need to wait on AMD. If there is a bug in the AMD microcode, you are effectively "stopped by AMD".

Re: CUDA Tile Open Sourced

#85

Fun game: see how many clicks it takes you to learn what MLIR stands for. I lost count at five or six. Define your acronyms on first use, people.

Based on the use of LLVM I guessed "Machine Learning Intermediate Representation"?

How close was I?

Re: CUDA Tile Open Sourced

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post #75
post #47

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Yes, but Latner said multiple time it's closed until it matures (he apparently did this with llvm and swift too). So not unusal. His open source target is end of 2026. In all fairness, I have 0 doubts that he would deliver.

Given Swift for Tensorflow, lets see how this one goes.

Who would anyone want to pair a subpar language with a subpar ML framework?

Re: CUDA Tile Open Sourced

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CUDA Tile is an open source MLIR Dialect so it wouldn't take much to write MLIR transforms to map it from the Tile IR to TOSA or gpu + vector + some amdgpu or other specialty dialects. The Tile dialect is pretty much independent of the nvidia ecosystem so all it takes is one good set of MLIR transform passes to run anything on the CUDA stack that compiles to tile out of the nvidia ecosystem prison. So if anything thi…

Or it's Nvidia doing an Embrace Extend Extinguish on MLIR.

TileIR license means llvm can just fork and support it themselves as needed.

Re: CUDA Tile Open Sourced

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post #74

Let's see if developers sleepwalk into another trap to keep us locked into nvidia's hardware for the next decade.

It is up to AMD, Intel and Khronos to offer APIs and tools that are actually nice to use. They have had about 15 years to move beyond C99, stone age workflows to compile GLSL and C99 with their drivers, no libraries ecosystem, and printf debugging. Eventually some of the issues have been fixed, after they started seeing only hardliners would put with such development experience, and then it was too late.

Isn't there OneAPI with its huge ecosystem of tools, debuggers, etc?

Re: CUDA Tile Open Sourced

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post #75

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Given Swift for Tensorflow, lets see how this one goes.

Who would anyone want to pair a subpar language with a subpar ML framework?

That is the thing, what lessons were learnt from it, and how will Mojo tackle them.

Re: CUDA Tile Open Sourced

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Easy, if that’s how you feel, skip the comment and don’t engage. Telling people who want to have that participation and discussion to “RTFM” is not a good response. Often you’ll come across the authors on these posts that can shed direct, 1st person evidence, of what we’re talking about. So please, when someone asks “what is that?” Don’t respond with “RTFM”.

Asking "what is this?" is fine. Treating "I was unfamiliar with this" as evidence that the post is deficient is not. HN already assumes a baseline of technical literacy. When something falls outside that baseline, the usual move is to ask for context or links, not to reframe personal unfamiliarity as an author failure. So please, don’t normalize treating "I don’t know this yet" as a failure of the post.

I agree but if someone asks “What is this?” and it’s not covered by the article, what we shouldn’t do is put that person down by telling them to “just google it”.

If that is your answer, please just don’t comment.

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