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Here is the 15 sec coding test I used to instantly filter out most applicants
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Re: Here is the 15 sec coding test I used to instantly filter out most applicants
#82My take-away: if you're doing simple coding problems like this for an interview with the "CTO", that's a very bad smell.
It's not for getting an interview with the CTO, but a very early filter to weed out poor candidates. But yes, if that's the only question then it's not going to discover talent.
Re: Here is the 15 sec coding test I used to instantly filter out most applicants
#83Why wouldn't a qualified developer just run the code? Takes two seconds instead of ... whatever you're going for here.
Is it really faster to run the code than to just answer it? Like are people struggling to answer this question?
I can run the code in my head. I can probably be right. I can be 99.9999% sure I am right.
OR:
I could run the code in the interpreter and be 100% certain.
I know what attitude I would prefer out of my developers.
Re: Here is the 15 sec coding test I used to instantly filter out most applicants
#84You've built a filter that punishes verification at the hiring stage, then you're surprised when your team ships unverified code.
You get what you select for. He selected for "doesn't double-check." Congratulations, you've got a team of developers who don't double-check.
Re: Here is the 15 sec coding test I used to instantly filter out most applicants
#85Peeking at the source, it's just a zero-width div, which is not accomodating of people with disabilities. This might open you up to litigation if you disqualify a blind person on the grounds he gave the wrong answer 'using AI', when he might have just been answering the question his screen reader read out.
For better or worse, screen readers tend to be less easily tricked by things like that now.
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Re: Here is the 15 sec coding test I used to instantly filter out most applicants
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it really faster to run the code than to just answer it? Like are people struggling to answer this question?
I can run the code in my head. I can probably be right. I can be 99.9999% sure I am right. OR: I could run the code in the interpreter and be 100% certain. I know what attitude I would prefer out of my developers.
Isnt the point of the article that blindly copying and pasting this code leads to the wrong answer?
I agree many developers do blindly copy and paste things off the Internet, but I don't think that's something to desire or celebrate.
Re: Here is the 15 sec coding test I used to instantly filter out most applicants
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can run the code in my head. I can probably be right. I can be 99.9999% sure I am right. OR: I could run the code in the interpreter and be 100% certain. I know what attitude I would prefer out of my developers.
Isnt the point of the article that blindly copying and pasting this code leads to the wrong answer? I agree many developers do blindly copy and paste things off the Internet, but I don't think that's something to desire or celebrate.
The point of this article is this person punishes people who copy and paste the code ... into their python interpreter to check.
How many cases have you faced in your real job where this has happened?
Re: Here is the 15 sec coding test I used to instantly filter out most applicants
#88I read the problem without reader mode by accident and got it correct, then was mildly confused when I switched to reader mode (which I always use when a site is in light mode, as I prefer dark mode on everything) and saw the ">=". In normal circumstances I would've failed this.
Re: Here is the 15 sec coding test I used to instantly filter out most applicants
#89Peeking at the source, it's just a zero-width div, which is not accomodating of people with disabilities. This might open you up to litigation if you disqualify a blind person on the grounds he gave the wrong answer 'using AI', when he might have just been answering the question his screen reader read out.
How about don't let them copy it at all. Show them the problem on a shared screen and they should speak the answer in 15 or 30 seconds. If someone is visually impaired, it's short enough you can just read the problem text to them.
Can't read the problem when the point is to catch those who copy-paste the code.
Re: Here is the 15 sec coding test I used to instantly filter out most applicants
#90That was REALLY weird to read. In reader mode the comparator in the first conditional was >=. But without reader mode it was just >.
Which is literally the point of the post. They have the = in >= at an opacity of 0 and a font-size of 1, which means it doesn't appear if styles are used properly. And their point is that candidates that copy/paste such trivial code into an AI/interpreter will get -11 because it just sees the >=. Though a gap in their process is that, as you mentioned, various reading modes also remove styles and likewise might see i…
I'm one of those hit by the reader mode "bug". I really wouldn't want the mode to give me anything beyond raw text+images, as that can be abused.