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VS Code deactivates IntelliCode in favor of the paid Copilot

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Re: VS Code deactivates IntelliCode in favor of the paid Copilot

#81
I had a scare combined with an insight last week. I was looking for documentation on power BI - specifically the M language. I found the Microsoft documentation but found it to be much more sparse than I hadremembered It only had the function names and the argument names and almost no explanation.

I thought "what a perfect way for Microsoft to force copilot upon us". They can make it necessary by being the only "documentation" of their software.

Re: VS Code deactivates IntelliCode in favor of the paid Copilot

#82

I've often thought, "If AI is so great, how come all these tech companies are shoving AI features down our throats for free, instead of charging real money for them?" I'm actually glad that MS is doing this, and I hope it starts a trend of more companies gating their AI features behind paywalls, and a noticable reduction in the number of popups I encounter badgering me to use AI features that I never asked for.

IntelliCode was first released in 2018, well before the current AI landscape where running each model costs a neighborhood's worth of power. Indeed, it runs using a small local model that costs essentially nothing in comparison to the rest of the machine running it.

In fact, the intent here is exactly the opposite of what you're hoping for (less AI badgering). They're trying to get people to actually use Copilot after recently missing internal adoption goals on all the AI products they're trying to shove down people's throats. The badgering is only going to get worse, and they're going to continue removing functioning, free features to do so. You should not be glad that Microsoft is killing a free lightweight product for a bloated, ecologically harmful and economically wasteful one.

Re: VS Code deactivates IntelliCode in favor of the paid Copilot

#83
post #75

VS Code feels like nothing but bloat. Sublime Text is still my go-to, as I'm not very well-versed in Neovim yet. I'm also really digging the new C/Lua-based Lite XL - https://lite-xl.com . One of my New Year's resolutions is to learn Neovim properly.

> One of my New Year's resolutions is to learn Neovim properly.

I'm decades in at this point and still learning. Just keep in mind you don't need to know everything before getting a massive benefit out of it.

My top features:

- Fingers do not leave the home row (only good if you are a touch typer, but if you aren't, do it, it is worth it)

- Terminal based (so you can use it over ssh when needed, or pipe data into it during scripting sessions)

- Starts fast

- Navigating and editing with text objects (though this took me a while to work into my workflow)

- Regular expressions w/ ex commands

- Filtering text with cli commands via ex

- Editable macros

If you haven't gone through `vimtutor`, I recommend that as an early step.

Re: VS Code deactivates IntelliCode in favor of the paid Copilot

#84

Microsoft doing Microsoft things, even with all those fresh coats of "open source" paint they bathe themselves in the last decade they really can't change their DNA. Expect the amount of f*ckery to increase as the AI realities set in but the number has to go up either way. It reminds me of the good old days of Visual Studio + .NET + SQL Server where they played these games too.

This made me laugh a bit as I remembered people saying “Oh we have Nadella now, things have changed”. Have they? Have they really? Windows Recall. VS Code forcing Copilot. Windows forcing Copilot. Office forcing Copilot. Azure forcing Copilot. GitHub forcing Copilot. Outlook forcing Copilot. Edge forcing Copilot. You folks are insane.

There is not Copilot, only Zuul.

Re: VS Code deactivates IntelliCode in favor of the paid Copilot

#85
post #71

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Or don't want. I don't want an AI infected editor.

Zed is much less AI-infected than VSCode. In fact, in Zed there’s a single button to disable all AI features.

but doing that would you not end up with less than vscode?

Re: VS Code deactivates IntelliCode in favor of the paid Copilot

#86

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Simple, do not purchase LG TV.

I have a C8 from LG, and I'm so happy with it after so many years, works wonderfully as a dumb panel, and a great panel at that. I wonder if it's impossible to use the newer ones like that. Anyone has any experience? Asking because our neighbors want the same great "tv".

I have to agree, simply not buying LG isn't an option, we'd have to rule out just about everyone for the same reason.

I have a slightly older WebOS LG TV, it has PS5, Switch 2, and FireStick 4K Max and an Onkyo receiver plugged in, and as an OLED TV it's incredible, LG would always be my first choice for picture. Don't care about built-in sound as I use a sound-system.

Right now I'm in the market for another TV at around 65inches and was looking at the 2025 model LG OLED, I likely won't connect it to the internet and will probably just hook up an Apple TV following some discussion in another comment section about how much I hate my Fire TV for being ad-ridden.

Really I wish LG or someone would just make a dumb TV with 4+ HDMI, ARC, perhaps DP and a remote and let us hook up what we want; but it'll never happen.

Re: VS Code deactivates IntelliCode in favor of the paid Copilot

#87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a C8 from LG, and I'm so happy with it after so many years, works wonderfully as a dumb panel, and a great panel at that. I wonder if it's impossible to use the newer ones like that. Anyone has any experience? Asking because our neighbors want the same great "tv".

I recently bought a C5 and never connected it to the network. No issues so far.

This is my plan for beginning of new year (42" model), mixed games & desktop usage (I know oled ain't best for windows work but non-oled gaming monitors are rather crap ie due to non ideal local dimming, ghosting, mediocre colors compared to oled and so on).

Didnt plan on making it also a TV with internet connection, now I darn sure as hell won't.

Its really sad state of things that the best course of action now for new hardware is to simply use it as it is, never update or plug online since for any chance of any minor issue being fixed there is 100x the risk it will go to shit in substantial ways (I have Samsung q990d - they soundbar literally dying for good after an official update, but that one you had to at least push yourself from phone or via usb).

Not possible with everything, or at least not without substantial hacking for many.

Re: VS Code deactivates IntelliCode in favor of the paid Copilot

#88

If anyone is considering moving editors, I was recently in the same boat and I can’t recommend enough lazyvim + the ebook “lazyvim for ambitious developers”. This gets you a fully featured vscode-like baseline (navigation, language integration, integrated terminal, the whole thing). I had tried many times to switch to vim/emacs and the initial barrier to get a workable system always kept me from pushing forward. With…

I think some of the big features of VSCode are the extensions and, equivalently, the nice debug support. I just started using VSCode about a week ago thanks to moving to a project that uses scons as its primary supported build tool, and I've learned to hate scons and love VSCode over that time. The completely manual tasks/launch/etc stuff is kind of weird at first, but then becomes amazing and far more convenient, af…

I can't help you much, as currently I happen to use ruby at work and native debugging is enough - you can drop into an interactive console at a breaking point adding a single line, with no tooling.

Here's the chapter on debugging in the book I mentioned if you want to take a look: https://lazyvim-ambitious-devs.phillips.codes/course/chapter...

Re: VS Code deactivates IntelliCode in favor of the paid Copilot

#89

If anyone is considering moving editors, I was recently in the same boat and I can’t recommend enough lazyvim + the ebook “lazyvim for ambitious developers”. This gets you a fully featured vscode-like baseline (navigation, language integration, integrated terminal, the whole thing). I had tried many times to switch to vim/emacs and the initial barrier to get a workable system always kept me from pushing forward. With…

How about switching from VS Code to VS Codium? Same experience without the microsoft telemetry. I suppose Copilot won't be included due to licensing constraints.

Re: VS Code deactivates IntelliCode in favor of the paid Copilot

#90

Microsoft doing Microsoft things, even with all those fresh coats of "open source" paint they bathe themselves in the last decade they really can't change their DNA. Expect the amount of f*ckery to increase as the AI realities set in but the number has to go up either way. It reminds me of the good old days of Visual Studio + .NET + SQL Server where they played these games too.

This made me laugh a bit as I remembered people saying “Oh we have Nadella now, things have changed”. Have they? Have they really? Windows Recall. VS Code forcing Copilot. Windows forcing Copilot. Office forcing Copilot. Azure forcing Copilot. GitHub forcing Copilot. Outlook forcing Copilot. Edge forcing Copilot. You folks are insane.

"Just" some Copilot integration (in the form of chat or smart suggestions) is just the start.

The next major Windows 11 update coming in 2026 will have full agentic AI with full control over your (your?) PC. And it will hard require a pretty recent processor with Neural Processor Unit to make it work (so a lot more e-waste is coming).

I fear for the future.

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