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8M users' AI conversations sold for profit by "privacy" extensions

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Re: 8M users' AI conversations sold for profit by "privacy" extensions

#81
post #47

I don't understand why so many people are using / trusting VPNs "Let us handle all your internet traffic.. you can trust us.. we're free!" No thank you.

For the same reason you trust your ISP? It handles all your internet traffic; and depending on where you live, probably has government-mandated back doors, or is willing to cooperate with arbitrary requests from law-enforcement agencies.

That's why TLS exists, after all. All Internet traffic is wiretapped.

Re: 8M users' AI conversations sold for profit by "privacy" extensions

#82
post #28

I thought manifest v3 was supposed to make chrome extensions secure?

Its the reason why they found it because the code was in extension. Before manifest v3, extensions could just load external scripts and there's no way you could tell what they were actually doing.

Re: 8M users' AI conversations sold for profit by "privacy" extensions

#85
post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah free VPN is totally a problem, but there's TLS so at least those users aren't getting their bank account information stolen.

Does tls means certificate pinning ? Can't a vpn alter dns queries to return a proxy website to your bank, using a forged certificate ?

TLS means “there’s a certificate”. Yeah, if a VPN/proxy can forge a certificate that the user’s browser would trust, it’s an issue.

But considering those are browser extensions, I think they can just inspect any traffic they want on the client side (if they can get such broad permissions approved, which is probably not too hard).

Re: 8M users' AI conversations sold for profit by "privacy" extensions

#86
post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't be rude. "Real person" here might live in any country of the world. And also, why extension for vpn? I live in country where almost everybody uses vpn just to watch YouTube and read twitter, and none of my friends uses some strange extensions. There are open source software for that - from real vpn like wireguard, to proxy software like nekoray/v2raytun. Browser extension is the last thing I would install to be…

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>> Don't be rude.

> What, there's an issue because I'm not being underhanded about it like [that] guy?

Wow you’ve put something into words here I never consciously realized is an unwritten rule. Sounds silly but yea you’re 100% right; that seems to be exactly the game we play.

For better or for worse.

Re: 8M users' AI conversations sold for profit by "privacy" extensions

#89
post #82
post #28

I thought manifest v3 was supposed to make chrome extensions secure?

Its the reason why they found it because the code was in extension. Before manifest v3, extensions could just load external scripts and there's no way you could tell what they were actually doing.

> extensions could just load external scripts and there's no way you could tell what they were actually doing.

I do think security researchers would be able to figure out what scripts are downloaded and run.

Regardless, none of this seems to matter to end users whether the script is in the extension or external.

Re: 8M users' AI conversations sold for profit by "privacy" extensions

#90
post #47

I don't understand why so many people are using / trusting VPNs "Let us handle all your internet traffic.. you can trust us.. we're free!" No thank you.

For the same reason you trust your ISP? It handles all your internet traffic; and depending on where you live, probably has government-mandated back doors, or is willing to cooperate with arbitrary requests from law-enforcement agencies. That's why TLS exists, after all. All Internet traffic is wiretapped.

I'd be significantly more suspicious by default of ISPs that charge no money.

> That's why TLS exists, after all.

That protects you if you're using standard methods to connect. Installed software gets to bypass it.

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