Yarr… when this happens to ye, it’s time to sail the high seas!
Exactly, and you should go deeper and encourage absolutely everyone in your surrounding to drop the service.
SoundCloud has banned VPN access
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Re: SoundCloud has banned VPN access
#82You can't just blanket block all VPN access, that's not how the internet works... they could pick some common/well-known providers of VPN services and block their IPs/ASN/etc., but you can't just flip a switch and make all forms of VPN/proxy stop working, as there's no way to tell with certainty that someone is using one.
Yes, and email is decentralized in theory... If using a VPN for access is forbidden by the ToS, you only need to detect a VPN connection once to prove violation. The IPv4 address space to consider is limited and it is technically absolutely feasible to exhaustively scrape and block the majority of VPN endpoints. Realistically any VPN provider will have some rather small IPv4 subnets make do, shit's expensive. More so…
> you only need to detect a VPN connection once to prove violation
But an IP address is not a person (legally in the US at least), and many IPv4 addresses get re-used fairly often. My home 5G internet changes IP every single day, and it's a constant struggle because other users often get my IP blocked for things I didn't do. I cannot even visit etsy.com for example. Just for fun I even checked 4chan and the IP was banned for CP, months before I ever had this particular IP (because I'm paranoid and track all that stuff).
Re: SoundCloud has banned VPN access
#83irony is this is posted on reddit, who also blocks VPN’s
Re: SoundCloud has banned VPN access
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Legislation. If a country requires age verification, identity verification, moderation, etc, it's easy enough to either block that traffic or enforce the local laws. However users can easily circumvent this with a VPN. For some countries, this traffic is still in scope, and so the only real way to prevent it is to block or impose the restrictions on all VPN users. Could also be spam/abuse prevention. Credential stuff…
Yeah, but age verification for _music_?
well, what if an artist put something controversial in the lyrics, like, something that radicalizes a minor into developing something maligned like, agency, or self awareness
Re: SoundCloud has banned VPN access
#85You can't just blanket block all VPN access, that's not how the internet works... they could pick some common/well-known providers of VPN services and block their IPs/ASN/etc., but you can't just flip a switch and make all forms of VPN/proxy stop working, as there's no way to tell with certainty that someone is using one.
It is easier to block all non-residential addresses, than block VPNs. As an added "bonus" it also kills personal VPNs running on VPS. VPNs in residential space exist but are sold as "premium" product.
yes and those users that happen to have their bw sold as residential VPN will be caught in the crossfire... many times they are not even aware of it because it's something buried in a ToS they didn't read for some random app.
Re: SoundCloud has banned VPN access
#86You can't just blanket block all VPN access, that's not how the internet works... they could pick some common/well-known providers of VPN services and block their IPs/ASN/etc., but you can't just flip a switch and make all forms of VPN/proxy stop working, as there's no way to tell with certainty that someone is using one.
MTU detection is the easiest one. Sucks for people with ISPs that don't do 1500 bytes but those are rare.
Hard disagree... there are still a vast many providers around the world doing < 1500, such as PPPoE DSL.
Re: SoundCloud has banned VPN access
#87You can't just blanket block all VPN access, that's not how the internet works... they could pick some common/well-known providers of VPN services and block their IPs/ASN/etc., but you can't just flip a switch and make all forms of VPN/proxy stop working, as there's no way to tell with certainty that someone is using one.
Big part of the Internet blanket ban countries , why do you think VPNs are any different?
Countries can be isolated at the physical junctions (in the case of a country as restrictive as NK).
Banning by a hosted IP amongst billions of other IPs is different.
Re: SoundCloud has banned VPN access
#88You can't just blanket block all VPN access, that's not how the internet works... they could pick some common/well-known providers of VPN services and block their IPs/ASN/etc., but you can't just flip a switch and make all forms of VPN/proxy stop working, as there's no way to tell with certainty that someone is using one.
Hell, I remember malware (Trojans / RATs) from the 2000s that allowed you to use your victims IP as your personal proxy.
Re: SoundCloud has banned VPN access
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are plenty of VPN and proxy detection services, either as a service (API) or downloadable database, which are surprisingly comprehensive. Disclaimer: I’ve run one since 2017. Years on, our primary data source is literally holding dozens of subscriptions to every commercial provider we can find, and enumerating the exit node IP addresses they use. There are also other methods, like using zmap/zgrab to probe for…
Interesting. I assumed all VPNs switched to IPv6 by now, making detection much harder.
Many websites including Soundcloud are still only accessible through IPv4, so this is moot, even if VPNs support IPv6 it's enough to block their V4 exit nodes for Soundcloud.
Re: SoundCloud has banned VPN access
#90Should be interesting to see how the internet blocks those of us who don't want to be fingerprinted, ID'd, or reveal our home IP addresses. YouTube already blocks embeds to login and prove I'm not a bot, funnily it doesn't work and embeds never play. Reddit will block me unless I'm signed in which I don't mind too much, but the daily beast and many others block me which is a shame because I'm a real human being using…
> which is a shame because I'm a real human being using the internet as intended. This is the main issue here, the web has become actively hostile to normal people in the quest to monetize every second of online activity.
"Actively hostile" is another of the common myths. See also: "corporations are evil".
"Completely indifferent" and "Corporations are completely amoral" are more accurate.
It's the difference between someone trying to drown you, versus someone trying to fish while you drown just off the bank. Same end, of course.