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YouTube's CEO limits his kids' social media use – other tech bosses do the same

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Their point is that despite being the designers of such systems, they prevent their own children from using them. Akin to a drug dealer not consuming what he sells.

They prevent their kids from having unlimited time with YouTube. Does YouTube ever suggest that kids should be able to use it asich as they want?

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Their point is that despite being the designers of such systems, they prevent their own children from using them. Akin to a drug dealer not consuming what he sells.

Breaking: Willy Wonka execs don’t let their kids eat unlimited amount of candy. See how uninteresting and obvious that is?

That misses the point by a mile and a half: nobody let's their children eat unlimited amounts of chocolate. They do, however, let their children access Tiltok, Youtube, etc.

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Although I hate social media with a passion and would be fine if the government banned it outright, I don’t think this is a fair reading. Do toy manufacturers let their kids play with their toys 24 hours a day and not go outside or do homework? Video game devs? Parents are supposed to help their kids limit their time in everything. ‘He stressed “everything in moderation”’

> Do toy manufacturers let their kids play with their toys 24 hours a day and not go outside or do homework? I bet toy manufacturers have never had to think: "is this toy bad for my child's development?"

Is any YouTube bad for their child's development? Or just spending large amounts of time on it with no adult supervision?

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Just throw it out of the window. I'm not going to give my 6y son access to a smart phone until he is much older, ideally when he is in senior high school. The only issue is that his future friends may not have the same idea, so it's going to be extremely difficult when he grows older. Fortunately we have a mobile ban in the school, so at least they know this is not a good thing.

The problem with this approach is their peers. Prohibition culture does not work if it’s so easy to access it elsewhere. My parents learned this when they tried to restrict video games strictly to the weekends when I was a kid haha! I find having conversations with parents at school and the parents of their friends leads to the best results (so far, I’ve only been at it a few years for my kiddos so we’ll see I guess…

Yeah we are doing that now. But I don’t know what to do if all his peers are on social media. I already know some of his friends have extensive screen time — their parents don’t care.

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Those ads are optional. You can just pay for it. Its actually pretty good value for the money. Edit: I forgot to mention Family Link. Once you have a family membership (maybe even before?) You can also use Googles family link to enable a restricted mode that hides adult content for specific accounts. You actually get a pretty great experience for the whole family for about $20/month.

Ads are only half the problem. The real problem with kids using YouTube is it's too easy for them to access any of the content on the platform. If I could pay YouTube for the privilege of using an app where I choose exactly which videos are available, and no other video will ever appear on or can be accessed from that app, then I might pay for it. IMO the only way YouTube can be kid-friendly is if there is an app whe…

Youtube Kids has this. You can turn on a whitelisted content only mode. Then only content you share with the kids account shows up.

Approved content only mode.

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Their point is that despite being the designers of such systems, they prevent their own children from using them. Akin to a drug dealer not consuming what he sells.

Breaking: Willy Wonka execs don’t let their kids eat unlimited amount of candy. See how uninteresting and obvious that is?

Only if your mental model equates youtube to junk food.

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Just throw it out of the window. I'm not going to give my 6y son access to a smart phone until he is much older, ideally when he is in senior high school. The only issue is that his future friends may not have the same idea, so it's going to be extremely difficult when he grows older. Fortunately we have a mobile ban in the school, so at least they know this is not a good thing.

> The only issue is that his future friends may not have the same idea, so it's going to be extremely difficult when he grows older. Third grade and it’s already happening: My kid has already had trouble in his social circle at school because we made him cut back his Roblox time by a lot. It’s not even that anyone plays at school, but supposedly almost all the boys (and many girls) are playing after school.

What do you plan to do? Mine is in preschool but it's just a few years away...I feel pretty desperate.

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Their point is that despite being the designers of such systems, they prevent their own children from using them. Akin to a drug dealer not consuming what he sells.

>“We do limit their time on YouTube and other platforms and other forms of media. On weekdays we tend to be more strict, on weekends we tend to be less so. We’re not perfect by any stretch,” >He stressed “everything in moderation” is what works best for him and his wife, and that extends to other online services and platforms. >YouTube’s former CEO Susan Wojcicki, also barred her children from browsing videos on the…

The issue is that the business models of these platforms (Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, tik tok) are based on maximizing engagement. And maximizing engagement in this context means spending ever increased amounts of time on one platform over another or over doing offline activities like reading a book and going outside.

So the tech leaders preach moderation but the design of all these apps are built to be addictive and to maximize the time that other people and other people’s kids spend on it. It seems to be poor kids who have overworked stressed parents who seem to spend the largest chuck of time endlessly scrolling on these apps harming their minds and mental health and so on

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>“We do limit their time on YouTube and other platforms and other forms of media. On weekdays we tend to be more strict, on weekends we tend to be less so. We’re not perfect by any stretch,” >He stressed “everything in moderation” is what works best for him and his wife, and that extends to other online services and platforms. >YouTube’s former CEO Susan Wojcicki, also barred her children from browsing videos on the…

My kids aren’t allowed on YouTube. I run a local system that mirrors approved channels to our home server and serves them through Plex. Creators lose ad revenue; that’s unfortunate. The alternative was nonstop ads on children’s content and a recommendation system pushing garbage. That trade-off was unacceptable.

Same here as well as for other streaming. They want to watch the show more than a couple times, I’ll download it. No way I let my kids get brainwashed by these people with their weird algorithms they don’t understand themselves.

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Screen time features exist on most devices. Parents - please set them up. It doesn’t take a lot of effort. I limit my kids for 1/2 hr of screen time per day. I exclude apps like iMessage, phone and maps. Yeah - they do ask for more time here and there. But it’s pretty well controlled and they adjust to it

Personally (as parent of two high schoolers) I think leaving texting unmanaged is wild. We block social media apps (Snap, IG, etc) and also regular media (YT, Netflix, Disney+, Tubi, etc). Social media because of toxic content and regular media because of distractions. We limit messaging app time to 30min/day, whether it's SMS/RCS, Whatsapp, Telegram, or something else.

By far the most distracting thing for kids is persistent notifications. Snap is the worst for this, but messaging apps are a close second.

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