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Pop_OS 24.04 LTS with COSMIC desktop environment

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Re: Pop_OS 24.04 LTS with COSMIC desktop environment

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Post by tmtvl »

dontlaugh wrote: post #25
tmtvl wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hard bounced off COSMIC with the complete lack of theming. I can't even set my clock to a reasonable format in it. The only thing it has going for it is sane multi-monitor support, which neither KDE nor GNOME have gotten right so far (though at KDE there is some activity around it, dunno 'bout GNOME).

What’s wrong with Gnome’s multi monitor support? My two monitors even have different pixel density.

Can't switch between workspace 1 and 2 on my right monitor while leaving my left one on workspace 3. In fact, I believe by default I wouldn't even get workspaces on my secondary monitor. Because who needs 'organization' anyway?

Re: Pop_OS 24.04 LTS with COSMIC desktop environment

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Post by dontlaugh »

tmtvl wrote: post #81
dontlaugh wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’s wrong with Gnome’s multi monitor support? My two monitors even have different pixel density.

Can't switch between workspace 1 and 2 on my right monitor while leaving my left one on workspace 3. In fact, I believe by default I wouldn't even get workspaces on my secondary monitor. Because who needs 'organization' anyway?

I see. I’ve always preferred to switch workspaces together.

Re: Pop_OS 24.04 LTS with COSMIC desktop environment

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Post by lillecarl »

criddell wrote: post #78
jsk2600 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You do not need to have GNOME in order to run GTK apps - Pop_OS ships with GTK/QT libraries so all apps works as on Ubuntu.

Who wants to run multiple widget sets though? You lose any semblance of your system having a native look and feel.

I want to run applications written with both Qt and GTK.

I do not care much about "look and feel"

Re: Pop_OS 24.04 LTS with COSMIC desktop environment

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Post by dtj1123 »

kwanbix wrote: post #30

I tried it because another_linux_distro! Sadly, I found the COSMIC dock looks "dead" since they can not implement the genie effect as it is patented by Apple ://///////// EDIT: I refer to this effect: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eOrvbaKz5H4 It is called magnification effect.

I've found that COSMIC heavily rewards navigation via the keyboard rather than via the mouse. Typing super followed by the first few letters of whichever app you want takes a fraction of the time you'd need to pick out the relevant app from a dock.

Re: Pop_OS 24.04 LTS with COSMIC desktop environment

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Post by pjmlp »

panick21_ wrote: post #12

I have been using is since early Alpha and overall its pretty good. Certainty bug early on but now that I'm thinking on it I don't remember hitting any real issues in a few months now. I still think the name Pop!_OS is dumb, they should just call it CosmicOS, as this new desktop is their defining feature and its a great name. What is really amazing is that thanks to Cosmic now becoming an important part of Wayland, a…

Given the route GNOME has been since version 3, I doubt it.

Also we need to take into account that many open source projects eventually run out of steam, which is what I see as most likely.

Re: Pop_OS 24.04 LTS with COSMIC desktop environment

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Post by jorvi »

sho_hn wrote: post #77
jorvi wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really hate that at some point in the past, KDE developers decided that they hated how deeply intuitive virtual desktops are and deprecated them in favor of something deeply unintuitive (Activities). Any issue or complaint mentioning it is shot down with "you're holding it wrong." Please just give virtual desktops first class support and lets forget about the Activities experiment. Most users hate it. The attitude…

> Any issue or complaint mentioning it is shot down with "you're holding it wrong." I don't think this is true. Speaking as an upstream dev, we've never been very happy with Activities, either. https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/issues/35 Clearly you've had some interaction that upset you and I apologize for that, but I've never come across any Plasma dev who felt we nailed that one (and I wrote large p…

To be honest, this is like.. 5 years back? Maybe more. But I don't switch DEs that often.

It's funny to see the two things that prompted the discussion (naming desktops and per-desktop wallpapers) come up heavily under that issue you linked.

Like I mentioned in another comment, I like that KDE devs are much more constructive than Gnome devs. In that issue you can clearly see you're asking users to rephrase their feedback so it is more useful.

With Gnome, I've for example opened an issue for something that isn't according to visual HIG practices. Implementing this would lead to more visual clarity and it would look better to boot. I got told that no, actually they know better. It was pretty clear that they thought that if code or design originated from their shop, there could be no (better) alternative.

When I linked and gave mockup examples I got snarked, and when I snarked back I immediately got dressed down for rule violation by some mod figure that completely ignored their dev's initial snark. Just very, very unpleasant people.

Apologies for the rant haha. Anyway, thanks for linking that and for responding!

Re: Pop_OS 24.04 LTS with COSMIC desktop environment

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Post by Tostino »

dardeaup wrote: post #24
Manfred wrote: post #9

I use Pop!_OS for my gaming PC and I generally enjoy it. It could do with less punctuation in the name because it makes it harder to search the internet for distro specific information.

I would be more inclined to use it if it didn't have punctuation within the name.

I've been using it as my daily driver for ~3 years now.

The punctuation hasn't bothered me once in that time.

I've enjoyed a much more stable Linux desktop experience than I had on other distros in the past when I tried though.

Re: Pop_OS 24.04 LTS with COSMIC desktop environment

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Post by athoneycutt »

sho_hn wrote: post #42
phkahler wrote: post #39

I've often said OSes and DEs have stagnated, so web browsers started innovating in areas they shouldn't have needed to. Tabs is one such area. And now with Cosmic: Stacks, snapping, and sticky windows ◦ Stack windows to combine them into tab groups like a browser ••• Right click on the header and choose Create Window Stack. Then drag another window to the stack. ••• When tiling windows, simply drag the window on top…

FWIW, multiple KDE versions had similar group-windows-with-tabs implementations for many years, and the uptake wasn't particularly high. Cf. https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/archive/kde44...

I remember that in KDE 4 and have missed it a lot, I'm very happy that COSMIC went this route to be honest.

Re: Pop_OS 24.04 LTS with COSMIC desktop environment

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Post by mghackerlady »

criddell wrote: post #78
jsk2600 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You do not need to have GNOME in order to run GTK apps - Pop_OS ships with GTK/QT libraries so all apps works as on Ubuntu.

Who wants to run multiple widget sets though? You lose any semblance of your system having a native look and feel.

I personally try to run Qt stuff only but a lot of stuff most people will run is either GTK (Firefox, thunderbird) or Qt (VLC, Krita, Libreoffice by default). COSMIC can theme GTK to match its style, and so can KDE to an extent

Re: Pop_OS 24.04 LTS with COSMIC desktop environment

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Post by veidr »

I've been waiting so long for this DE, but as a longtime KDE user who really doesn't like GNOME, GNOME is literally the only DE on Linux that can do Windows/Mac-equivalent remote desktop on Wayland.

COSMIC isn't yet close to a solution for remote desktop, so I expect to have to wait a few more years. (T_T)

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