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Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Post by baq »

qwertox wrote: post #72

Let's see which company becomes the first to sell "coding appliances": hardware with a model good enough for normal coding. If Mistral is so permissive they could be the first ones, provided that hardware is then fast/cheap/efficient enough to create a small box that can be placed in an office. Maybe in 5 years.

llm in a box connected via usb is the dream.

...so it won't ever happen, it'll require wifi and will only be accessible via the cloud, and you'll have to pay a subscription fee to access the hardware you bought. obviously.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Post by brazukadev »

qwertox wrote: post #72

Let's see which company becomes the first to sell "coding appliances": hardware with a model good enough for normal coding. If Mistral is so permissive they could be the first ones, provided that hardware is then fast/cheap/efficient enough to create a small box that can be placed in an office. Maybe in 5 years.

my bet is a deepseek box

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Post by udev4096 »

fastball wrote: post #51
JimDabell wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are claiming something is open-source when it isn’t. Regardless of whether you think the deviation from open-source is a good thing or not, you should still be in favour of honesty.

*according to your definition of open-source

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Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Post by vidarh »

embedding-shape wrote: post #62
pdntspa wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But where are the professional tools, meant to be used for people who don't want to do vibe-coding, but be heavily assisted by LLMs? Something that is meant to augment the human intellect, not replace it? Claude Code not good enough for ya?

Claude Code has absolutely zero features that help me review code or do anything else than vibe-coding and accept changes as they come in. We need diff-comparisons between different executions, tailored TUI for that kind of work and more. Claude Code is basically a MVP of that. Still, I do use Claude Code and Codex daily as there is nothing better out there currently. But they still feel tailored towards vibe-coding…

I really do not want those things in Claude COde - I much prefer choosing my own diff tools etc. and running them in a separate terminal. If they start stuffing too much into the TUI they'd ruin it - if you want all that stuff built in, they have the VS Code integration.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Post by tomashubelbauer »

isodev wrote: post #29
pluralmonad wrote: post #3

I'm sure I'm not the only one that thinks "Vibe CLI" sounds like an unserious tool. I use Claude Code a lot and little of it is what I would consider Vibe Coding.

If you’re letting Claude write code you’re vibe coding

It sure doesn't feel like it given how closely I have to babysit Claude Code lest I don't recognize the code after Claude Code is done with it when left to its own devices for a minute.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Post by chrsw »

embedding-shape wrote: post #61
williamstein wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their new CLI agent tool [1] is written in Python unlike similar agents from Anthropic/Google (Typescript/Bun) and OpenAI (Rust). It also appears to have first class ACP support, where ACP is the new protocol from Zed [2]. [1] https://github.com/mistralai/mistral-vibe [2] https://zed.dev/acp

> Their new CLI agent tool [1] is written in This is exactly the CLI I'm referring to, whose name implies it's for playing around with "vibe-coding", instead of helping professional developers produce high quality code. It's the opposite of what I and many others are looking for.

I think that's just the name they picked. I don't mind it. Taking a glance at what it actually does, it just looks like another command line coding assistant/agent similar to Opencode and friends. You can use it for whatever you want not just "vibe coding", including high quality, serious, professional development. You just have to know what you're doing.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Post by tomashubelbauer »

SyneRyder wrote: post #75

I was briefly excited when Mistral Vibe launched and mentions "0 MCP Servers" in its startup screen... but I can't find how to configure any MCP servers. It doesn't respond to the /mcp command, and asking Devstral 2 for help, it thinks MCP is "Model Context Preservation". I'd really like to be able to run my local MCP tools that I wrote in Golang. I'm team Anthropic with Claude Max & Claude Code, but I'm still excite…

Check this out: https://github.com/mistralai/mistral-vibe?tab=readme-ov-file...

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Post by vidarh »

embedding-shape wrote: post #63
johanvts wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you try Aider?

I did, although a long time ago, so maybe I need to try it again. But it still seems to be stuck in a chat-like interface instead of something tailored to software development. Think IDE but better.

When I think "IDE but better", a Claude Code-like interface is increasingly what I want.

If you babysit every interaction, rather than reviewing a completed unit of work of some size, you're wasting your time second-guessing that the model won't "recover" from stupid mistakes. Sometimes that's right, but more often than not it corrects itself faster than you can.

And so it's far more effective to interact with it far more async, where the UI is more for figuring out what it did if something doesn't seem right, than for working live. I have Claude writing a game engine in another window right now, while writing this, and I have no interest in reviewing every little change, because I know the finished change will look nothing like the initial draft (it did just start the demo game right now, though, and it's getting there). So I review no smaller units of change than 30m-1h, often it will be hours, sometimes days, between each time I review the output, when working on something well specified.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Post by johanvts »

embedding-shape wrote: post #63
johanvts wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you try Aider?

I did, although a long time ago, so maybe I need to try it again. But it still seems to be stuck in a chat-like interface instead of something tailored to software development. Think IDE but better.

It has a new “watch files” mode where you can work interactively. You just code normally but can send commands to the llm via a special string. Its a great way if interacting with LLMs, if only they where much faster.
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