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JetBrains cancels Fleet

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Re: JetBrains cancels Fleet

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Post by pjmlp »

sorcercode wrote: post #13

this is bittersweet news. but sigh. Jetbrains really just has no focus. Fleet came at a time when intellij felt extremely bloated. iirc they had painted themselves into a corner where it was easier to rip the band aid and start anew. Fleet was supposed to be that promised editor which was snappy and had the power of intellisense + all things we liked about Intellij editors ... but without the terrible glacial bloat.…

No worries, as long as Android exists, Google depends on JetBrains, maybe they end up acquiring them.

Re: JetBrains cancels Fleet

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Post by rkomorn »

sorcercode wrote: post #13

this is bittersweet news. but sigh. Jetbrains really just has no focus. Fleet came at a time when intellij felt extremely bloated. iirc they had painted themselves into a corner where it was easier to rip the band aid and start anew. Fleet was supposed to be that promised editor which was snappy and had the power of intellisense + all things we liked about Intellij editors ... but without the terrible glacial bloat.…

Another example of their wonkiness with Fleet and focus was their whole "Kotlin Multiplaform stuff will be Fleet-first!" which they then (somewhat promptly) reversed to "actually it'll be IntelliJ/Android Studio first" ... and that's not even getting to the macOS-only aspect (also "at first").

Their matrix of features/capabilities across IDEs, platforms, plugins, etc is such a pitfall-happy maze to navigate.

Re: JetBrains cancels Fleet

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Post by rkomorn »

pjmlp wrote: post #81
sorcercode wrote: post #13

this is bittersweet news. but sigh. Jetbrains really just has no focus. Fleet came at a time when intellij felt extremely bloated. iirc they had painted themselves into a corner where it was easier to rip the band aid and start anew. Fleet was supposed to be that promised editor which was snappy and had the power of intellisense + all things we liked about Intellij editors ... but without the terrible glacial bloat.…

No worries, as long as Android exists, Google depends on JetBrains, maybe they end up acquiring them.

Honestly can't tell if that would be better or worse. It's not like Google has a track record of not shutting down products.

Re: JetBrains cancels Fleet

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Post by microtonal »

nextaccountic wrote: post #78
donmcronald wrote: post #29

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> Last week i cancelled my Jetbrains sub after a decade of daily driving it. I’ve been paying for a personal license for about 20 years and I’ve been thinking of dropping it. I don’t use it much, but I wanted access to something that I could use offline. I’m not sure that’s possible at this point, so the main appeal is kind of gone for me. I frequently choose “lesser” tools if it means I’m guaranteed they’ll run offl…

Zed is amazing. It has AI features but it was still amazing before them The pivot to AI is concerning but the technology is solid and most importantly, it is open source. I'm kind of mad that JetBrains wouldn't open source Fleet even after EOL, and going as far as taking down the download (something annoying for people that care about software preservation - I hope archive.org has a copy). I can't support a company l…

The nice thing is that they have a single option Disable all AI that does just that. It's refreshing.

(I do use Zed with agents, because it's really good/helpful.)

Re: JetBrains cancels Fleet

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Post by adam_patarino »

ojhughes wrote: post #47
domano wrote: post #35

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I have given it up to 30GB of heap and i tried many different GC configs, i even ran it and my project on ramdisk. The issue is related to using a monorepo with lots of code in different languages - openening single folders is fine. Ut i want to be able to work on dozens of services in a single window, all other editors manage just fine

I have a similar problem, large monorepo, things have become really bad lately to the point that the cursor is unresponsive. The only workaround I have found is opening each folder of the monorepo in its own IDE instance

Feel this so hard. The opposite is also true where you have a micro-service architecture and cursor faceplants in workspaces with multiple repos. We ended up building cortex.build partly because of this exact pain. Our context engine builds a git-aware dependency/provenance graph so it can stay local and only pull the relevant slice across a massive repo or dozens of smaller ones.

Re: JetBrains cancels Fleet

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Post by wetpaws »

another_twist wrote: post #44
indemnity wrote: post #31

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I also cancelled my All Products subscription a while ago. I have been an IntelliJ user since the early 2000s and gave up after in 2025, it would still forget how a Maven project with some generated files should be built, with everything turning to a sea of red until you reimported the project and redid all your settings again. Job #1. There was always a regression like this in every new build, along with the perform…

Never ran into this. This seems odd, I use the 2025 build and it works just fine for me. With maven and gradle.

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Re: JetBrains cancels Fleet

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Post by Argonaut998 »

pjmlp wrote: post #70
Argonaut998 wrote: post #60

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For Java development nothing comes close. VSCode feels like a text editor in comparison, even with its extensions As for general development JetBrains just works. VSCode requires a bunch of extensions made by different independent authors with different standards and it just feels glued together and inconsistent

As if. InteliJ only recently acquired the capability to use Clion plugins for JNI development, something that Eclipse and Netbeans have been capable of for the last 20 years, more or less. They still don't have an incremental Java compiler, yeah you can use the one from Eclipse, so there is yet another thing that it doesn't do better. Finally, what is with all that indexing after all these years?

Fair enough, I'm not a Java developer actually, but I know all the guys in work use it over everything else. I've tried VSCode for Java development a few years ago and it wasn't suitable as an IDE, just as a file editor.
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