> preserving the dying for future revival
What for? The economy doesn't need humans anymore.
Doctors' estimates of the feasibility of preserving the dying for future revival
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Re: Doctors' estimates of the feasibility of preserving the dying for future revival
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
Its obviously not my 'fault'. But it's pretty close to a death I could have prevented for a while if I wasnt pretending to be busy probably. I remember when she said her dad was going to go instead and I thought "uhh, I don't think that's going to work.. I should just go" but I didn't really like her that much at that point and figured it would just be a lame wasted hike, not that the dude would die.
Not your fault your girlfriends dad was so out of shape a hike (potentially) killed him. He should have hiked more often.
Not his fault that he couldn't predict his daughter deciding to go on a hike alone, which triggered his parental protective mode.
Re: Doctors' estimates of the feasibility of preserving the dying for future revival
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
Its obviously not my 'fault'. But it's pretty close to a death I could have prevented for a while if I wasnt pretending to be busy probably. I remember when she said her dad was going to go instead and I thought "uhh, I don't think that's going to work.. I should just go" but I didn't really like her that much at that point and figured it would just be a lame wasted hike, not that the dude would die.
You do have a little fault here, but it’s marginal vs his lifetime choices, and his lack of understanding of his limits. There should be enough room for forgiveness in all of that. I get it, I got friends and family that have completed suicide and it’s hard to not think about what I could have done differently.
I really hate the fat-shaming going on here.
Yeah, he died. Yeah, he was out of shape.
He wanted to keep his daughter safe, and trying to do so cost him his life. He did something heroic.
What have you done at that level of importance?
Re: Doctors' estimates of the feasibility of preserving the dying for future revival
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
As someone who once came extremely close to death and was unconscious for days after eventually receiving medical care, my take on death is that it's probably similar to what you're saying about going under for surgery. I'm somewhat neutral to mixed on having been revived, but I no longer fear death. I still have a fear of suffering and having painful final moments, but death itself seems peaceful if nothing else. In…
> I sometimes wonder if that was truly a one time thing or if it's something that could happen again. You don't have to wonder. After all, if it happens again, you will be asking yourself this exact question, won't you?
That makes no sense. Of course they have to wonder about something that hasn't happened yet, and might not.
If it does happen, then they can stop wondering. Now now.
Re: Doctors' estimates of the feasibility of preserving the dying for future revival
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
I worry that there's a selection bias: physicians who even bothered to respond to a survey on this topic.
These were physicians who were being paid to complete surveys - no reason to think they were more likely to select/reject this one over any of the others available to them at the time.
. There's at least one reason. It's in the comment you responded to.
Re: Doctors' estimates of the feasibility of preserving the dying for future revival
#86Re: Doctors' estimates of the feasibility of preserving the dying for future revival
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One way to mitigate that would be to put the money in a trust which pays the preservation company a monthly dividend. If the trust stops paying, the company can sue it. If the company goes out of business despite its ongoing revenue, the trust can try to find someone else to take over the storage. We already have trusts that manage wealth for multiple generations.
And how can you trust the trust? We also have plenty of trusts which are questionably aligned with their makers last wills, among them the Nobel peace prize (Nobel didn't just want the prize to go to anyone working for any kind of advancement of peace. He had a very particular instrument for peace in mind, namely peace conferences, which I don't think any laureate has arranged for fifty years.) I think we have too ma…
The fact that we are talking about bodies supposedly preserved in a state of suspended animation, not yet really dead, refutes your premise.
Re: Doctors' estimates of the feasibility of preserving the dying for future revival
#88When it comes to cryopreservation the thing I find infeasible is the idea a provider would bother with the preservation, under the incentives of capitalism. If someone pays millions of dollars to a company that promises to freeze their corpse for 200 years, the company can simply freeze the corpse for a decade or two, take the millions of dollars as dividends and executive bonuses, then declare bankruptcy. The dead c…
The novel When the Sleeper Wakes is based on a situation where a tax loophole meant that one particular suspended-animation quasi-corpse inherited (eventually) over half the property on Earth. His trust becomes a de facto world government, and his body, fully cured of its fatal flaw, lies in state in a sort of mausoleum/temple/seat of government.
And one day he just wakes up.
Re: Doctors' estimates of the feasibility of preserving the dying for future revival
#89> preserving the dying for future revival What for? The economy doesn't need humans anymore.
Not to mention that it’s obviously ridiculous to do things for reasons other than economic or financial.