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Re: UniFi 5G

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Post by tuetuopay »

yapyap wrote: post #37

I gotta say, I hate it when companies use “xxx bits per second”, whether its Mega or Giga nobody uses bits per second and for the average consumer it’s very unclear that this differs from bytes. Having to explain to relatives and such that “yeah you actually have to divide that by 8” is a hassle and I get tricked by it subconsciously at times as well. 2 gbps meaning 250 megabytes per second is a SCAM. A marketing sha…

Networking only uses bits/s. Nobody in the networking world talks in bytes/s, and pretty much nobody in the data transfer world does.

The only industry that talks in bytes/s is parts of the storage space, because they relate to files, that are measured in bytes/s. And even them use both: the data link is in bits/s (e.g. SATA 6 is 6Gbps, NVMe uses the same bits/s than PCIe (1)) while the drive is usually in bytes/s (µSD cards, NVMe SSDs, etc).

When you look at the industry at large, throughput is virtually always measured in bits/s. HDMI is in bits/s. Video codecs measures bitrates in bits/s. Audio codecs measures bitrates in bits/s. PCIe is in bits/s (1). Ethernet is measured in bits/s. Wifi is measured in bits/s. You get the picture.

The good thing about keeping it consistent is that values are relatable. Streaming services naturally talk in bitrate for the video quality, and your ISP also talks in bits/s. You can compare the two numbers. Bytes/s is only really useful for on the spot jobs that you do once, like transferring photos from an SD card to your computer. Otherwise, it's just a unit.

(1): ackhstually pcie measures speeds in transfers/s because they include the 8b10b/64b66b encoding overhead and TLP overhead but I digress.

Re: UniFi 5G

#82

Post by mrweasel »

sschueller wrote: post #31

I am confused, this is just a 5G router right? Like the 5 year old Huawei CPE Pro 2 but with wifi7, poe and eSim? [1] https://consumer.huawei.com/en/routers/5g-cpe-pro-2/

What it can do, and Ubiquity already had this as a separate product, is act as a fallback for you regular internet connection.

You can do the same with Mikrotik and a ton of configuration, the pitch with Unify is that it "just works".

Re: UniFi 5G

#83

Post by lwkl »

a3w wrote: post #80
kkapelon wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unifi is the Apple of networking gear. When something new is released the HN crowd is excited even when the same functionality existed already with another company.

Ah, this is a Ubiquity product. That explains it. Why did AVM or Netgear Orbi not get this treatment for "works", though?

Because Unifi is more focused on the needs of businesses and enthusiasts. AVM and Netgear Orbi are products for the consumer market. So they miss a the advanced features Unifi supports.

Unifi is used by the tech-savvy homeowner that needs PoE for their security cameras and wants to control and configure their network without needing a network engineer.

Re: UniFi 5G

#84

Post by kkapelon »

mrweasel wrote: post #82
sschueller wrote: post #31

I am confused, this is just a 5G router right? Like the 5 year old Huawei CPE Pro 2 but with wifi7, poe and eSim? [1] https://consumer.huawei.com/en/routers/5g-cpe-pro-2/

What it can do, and Ubiquity already had this as a separate product, is act as a fallback for you regular internet connection. You can do the same with Mikrotik and a ton of configuration, the pitch with Unify is that it "just works".

"It just works" with Teltonika and Glinet as well. In most of the openwrt based routers multi-wan is already enabled. It is also very easy to do with TP-Link Omada (just enable a checkbox).

So, implying that Unifi is the only company that does this in an easy way is misleading marketing.

Comparing against Mikrotik is a very low bar.

Re: UniFi 5G

#85

Post by milliams »

a3w wrote: post #80
kkapelon wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unifi is the Apple of networking gear. When something new is released the HN crowd is excited even when the same functionality existed already with another company.

Ah, this is a Ubiquity product. That explains it. Why did AVM or Netgear Orbi not get this treatment for "works", though?

Small aside, AVM have now formally rebranded as "FRITZ!"

Re: UniFi 5G

#86

Post by styanax »

Semaphor wrote: post #78
uallo wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Settings => Search for "Autoplay" => Click "Settings..." => For "Default for all websites" select "Block Audio and Video".

Thank you, I could have sworn I had that active, but for some reason it was "audio only".

The about:config settings which you can look up:

    media.autoplay.blocking_policy
    media.autoplay.default
I have mine set to 2 and 5 respectively.

Re: UniFi 5G

#87

Post by Asmod4n »

I’ve got their unifi mobile router 4g and am quite happy with it in conjunction with one of their routers which got two lan ports you can either run in primary/primary mode where it does load balancing or primary/secondary one where the latter only gets used when the main one has issues.

I just kinda wish multipath TCP or something similar would be more in use so you wouldn’t notice a swap in connection mid air.

Re: UniFi 5G

#88

Post by cathepsin »

johncolanduoni wrote: post #42
phoronixrly wrote: post #14

Can't wait for this to get OpenWrt support so I can buy it and the first thing I do to be to nuke the UBNT firmware.

Is OpenWRT on Unifi APs any good? I hadn’t heard of it before, and I couldn’t find any performance comparisons on a quick search. Ubiquiti has gone downhill on a lot of things the last 5 years or so, but their radio firmware has always been a step up (within their price range) for me. I wouldn’t mind ditching the Unifi controller software though.

I'm using an U6+ with OpenWRT on it, flashed straight after unboxing and it's the only thing serving wireless in my household

It's alright except for some shenanigans with DHCP trying to compete with the router, I fixed that by just disabling DHCP on the AP if I recall correctly.

Speeds are pretty much as advertised on the box, the main thing using wireless is the TV as it has a 100mbit LAN port and it it's always smooth sailing. VLAN-separated SSIDs work great as well.

Re: UniFi 5G

#89

Post by turbocon »

killingtime74 wrote: post #79
CTDOCodebases wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Starlink has a specific backup plan too don't they?

Indeed. It's very cheap ($5?) and is fast enough to do 1080p YouTube with unlimited data. It's speed capped so if you really need it it's best to upgrade the plan that month.

Link? Cheapest I can find is $40/month

Re: UniFi 5G

#90

Post by poly2it »

johncolanduoni wrote: post #48
yapyap wrote: post #37

I gotta say, I hate it when companies use “xxx bits per second”, whether its Mega or Giga nobody uses bits per second and for the average consumer it’s very unclear that this differs from bytes. Having to explain to relatives and such that “yeah you actually have to divide that by 8” is a hassle and I get tricked by it subconsciously at times as well. 2 gbps meaning 250 megabytes per second is a SCAM. A marketing sha…

If you really want to piss people off, use Gibibits - 1024 * 1024 * 1024 bits. The ratio between those and Gigabytes is ~7.451.

I honestly feel mibi and gibibytes per second are the easiest units to rationalise about. The data I am transferring is already known to me in its binary prefix unit. Seconds for that data to transfer is a trivial translation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix

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