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India orders smartphone makers to preload state-owned cyber safety app

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Re: India orders smartphone makers to preload state-owned cyber safety app

#81
Sovereign tech stacks matter

Without domestic silicon or OS, you're forced to mandate bloatware that users can see

Real power operates at the silicon/firmware level, invisible, unremovable, and uncompromisable

This is a cringe move from India

https://www.centerforcybersecuritypolicy.org/insights-and-re...

Re: India orders smartphone makers to preload state-owned cyber safety app

#83
post #60

It is happening, in spite many won't really deeply believe. Every day 33 brits are arrested for what they say online. It's happening, and it's time we say no. It's uncomfortable, but we need to do it en masse, right now. Do not buy backdoored hardware, help others get rid of the backdoors, use anonymous technology to organize protests. There has to be a line.

I didn't find any context for your claim so here is some reddit comment: So it’s true 3,300 people were arrested for posts online. What they don’t tell you are the statistics or context. The actual law for these arrests covers EVERYTHING online. These arrests include those arrested for terrorism (if the planning/act of terror includes any online communication in the UK), threats of violence, racist abuse, hate speech…

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Re: India orders smartphone makers to preload state-owned cyber safety app

#84
post #60

It is happening, in spite many won't really deeply believe. Every day 33 brits are arrested for what they say online. It's happening, and it's time we say no. It's uncomfortable, but we need to do it en masse, right now. Do not buy backdoored hardware, help others get rid of the backdoors, use anonymous technology to organize protests. There has to be a line.

I didn't find any context for your claim so here is some reddit comment: So it’s true 3,300 people were arrested for posts online. What they don’t tell you are the statistics or context. The actual law for these arrests covers EVERYTHING online. These arrests include those arrested for terrorism (if the planning/act of terror includes any online communication in the UK), threats of violence, racist abuse, hate speech…

It also includes traveling to the United States where gun ownership is legal, and posting a picture of yourself holding a gun.

Re: India orders smartphone makers to preload state-owned cyber safety app

#85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even in mainland China, where iOS does have a large amount of changes to comply with local regulations, Apple does not pre-install any apps from anyone.

China doesn't require pre-installed apps but the Chinese government require all data processing and storage to be conducted within China with complete source code access. India chose to back off on data sovereignty [0] because it would have had a side effect of making Indian IT Offshoring less competitive plus to help make negotiating a US-India BTA easier [1]. [0] - https://verfassungsblog.de/cross-border-data-flows…

> making Indian IT Offshoring less competitive

So does a security backdoor in every mobile device used by said Indian offshoring staff.

Re: India orders smartphone makers to preload state-owned cyber safety app

#87

I'm shocked by people and state using the crutch of cyber crime or scams to push a totalitarian solution to a problem that is better solved by improved education and targeted campaigns against common security pitfalls. I abhor any decision that robs even a grain of my individual freedom.

You're assuming the problem the govt is referencing is their actual goal.

Re: India orders smartphone makers to preload state-owned cyber safety app

#88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it was open, truly open, wouldn't using GrapheneOS be easier and far more common than it is now?

That distro is seriously not good for your privacy. DYR (deeper) and support less dodgy options like LineageOS.

> That distro is seriously not good for your privacy.

How so?

> DYR (deeper)

Care to help with that?

Re: India orders smartphone makers to preload state-owned cyber safety app

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

... secure boot? I don't understand "just load GrapheneOS" sentiments. It only runs on extremely specific flagship devices with explicit features that allow it that are out of financial and technical reach for >99.9% of population of Earth and it still fully relies on AOSP. It's an escape hatch for mice. Or is it really not that way?

It is a dodgy Android distro for several reasons. LineageOS has no such shenanigans nor has a pattern of suspicious funding.

> It is a dodgy Android distro for several reasons.

What are these reasons?

> LineageOS has no such shenanigans nor has a pattern of suspicious funding.

What pattern of suspicious funding?

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