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Music eases surgery and speeds recovery, study finds

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Re: Music eases surgery and speeds recovery, study finds

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Post by Madmallard »

simonask wrote: post #68
kunley wrote: post #51

The crucial issue is: what kind of music. A lot of what's nowadays called music is actually rather a "sounds with some beat" category.

Music major here. Surprise, all music you know is “sounds with some beat”. I don’t know what counts as Music to you, but I sure hope you’re not out here trying to promote your particular taste as somehow more refined, because we know a lot about how that is usually just good old classist, generational, or racist biases peeking out.

I think the accusers here are far more likely to be the prejudiced ones

Re: Music eases surgery and speeds recovery, study finds

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Post by BriggyDwiggs42 »

lleu wrote: post #70
BriggyDwiggs42 wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I’m hearing is “it’s different music.” Why does this justify a reduction to “sounds with a beat”?

In this case, I see multiple parties resorting to pedantry over a legitimate point of discussion, reducing to mud slinging over semantics. The point stands.

What’s the point that stands? How do you justify the initial framing of “sounds over a beat”

Re: Music eases surgery and speeds recovery, study finds

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Post by dakial1 »

arethuza wrote: post #10

A while back I had to have a long and unpleasant dental procedure - a bone graft so I could get an implant in an area where the bone had been damaged - this took about 4 hours. During this time the dentist played music - mostly various works selected at random by Hans Zimmer. At one point things got a bit intense as apparently I have very hard bones - which meant that quite a bit of force was being used. The music pl…

Hans Zimmer is my soundtrack of choice for focus (Dune 2 is specially good). Found out that a colleague also had the same taste which was surprising for me, now I imagine it is a common use case for his music.

Re: Music eases surgery and speeds recovery, study finds

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Post by tetha »

arethuza wrote: post #69
rurp wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hah, that's great. My dentist has overhead TVs in all of the rooms. Before a longer appointment I asked if I could bring some over-ear headphones to connect to the TV. Surprisingly nobody had asked that before but they were fine with it. The headphones drowned out the drilling and other noises and helped me zone out into some shows.

I'm very short sighted so TVs wouldn't work for me, but I also tend to keep my eyes tight shut in case I see any of the ghastly instruments being used! [During the bone graft I did open my eyes briefly and saw a small for clearly identifiable circular saw].

Once you get down to bone, especially larger ones, parts of the surgery turns into masonry and carpentry. Including the tools. Power drills are valid tools in joint replacements or fracture stabilization.

Re: Music eases surgery and speeds recovery, study finds

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Post by dualogy »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #16
thomasfl wrote: post #14

If music is so valuable to us humans, then why can't humanity make a site like wikipedia for free music? There is a new generation growing up used to streaming services costing 10 bucks a month.

https://musopen.org https://imslp.org https://freemusicarchive.org https://www.jamendo.com https://ccmixter.org https://freepd.com https://incompetech.com https://audionautix.com

For flow-compatible electronica, let me add specifically:

https://netlabels.org/electronic-music/

https://files.scene.org/browse/music/

https://netlabelarchive.org/

https://freemusicarchive.org/label/all/

Re: Music eases surgery and speeds recovery, study finds

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Post by lleu »

BriggyDwiggs42 wrote: post #83
lleu wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this case, I see multiple parties resorting to pedantry over a legitimate point of discussion, reducing to mud slinging over semantics. The point stands.

What’s the point that stands? How do you justify the initial framing of “sounds over a beat”

I was pretty clear in what I said about music. I wasn't the one who made that remark, so I don't have anything to justify except my own statements.

Re: Music eases surgery and speeds recovery, study finds

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Post by squigz »

Razengan wrote: post #77
squigz wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That isn't the point of studies finding results that seem "intuitive" The point is that designing laws, regulations, guidelines, safety standards, etc, based on "intuition" is not very rational.

I recall seeing some fairly befuddling ones, like "Study finds that a green environment with plants & flowers reduces depression" etc., how do you even quantify this into numbers? I tell you I feel good if there's more greenery in the city, you want proof to see "how" good before you build more parks?

> I recall seeing some fairly befuddling ones, like "Study finds that being in a green environment with plants & flowers reduces depression" etc., how do you even quantify this into numbers?

"Effects of things on depression" doesn't seem like such a crazy thing to need to quantify.

> I tell you I feel good if there's more greenery in the city, you want proof to see "how" good before you build more parks?

A very disingenuous comparison, I think. There's a pretty big difference between that and "What is the effect of certain environmental stimuli during surgery"

I'd really rather not have surgeons explore this question on their own.

I don't disagree that we don't need nearly as much data on some things as others - but I do still want data supporting reasons to spend millions of public dollars.

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