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Roblox CEO interview about child safety didn't go well

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Re: Roblox CEO interview about child safety didn't go well

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Post by azan_ »

actionfromafar wrote: post #74
azan_ wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wasn't pedophilia much more widespread throughout the ages than it is now? I think the real "solution" to the problem of child abuse back in time was not to view it as a problem at all!

Whatever it was, it was highly context dependent and distributed thus more resilient to the whims of a single commercial entity. Roblox is like centralized daycare. If you are fine with that, sign your kids up.

But I didn't say anything about roblox, why do you think I'm fine with whatever they are doing? I just think you are wrong to think that anti-pedophilia guardrails thorough the ages were good and should be example for us. If you are fine with how things were done, sign your kids up for marriage and pregnancy at 13 years old.

Re: Roblox CEO interview about child safety didn't go well

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Post by actionfromafar »

azan_ wrote: post #81
actionfromafar wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whatever it was, it was highly context dependent and distributed thus more resilient to the whims of a single commercial entity. Roblox is like centralized daycare. If you are fine with that, sign your kids up.

But I didn't say anything about roblox, why do you think I'm fine with whatever they are doing? I just think you are wrong to think that anti-pedophilia guardrails thorough the ages were good and should be example for us. If you are fine with how things were done, sign your kids up for marriage and pregnancy at 13 years old.

Ok, sorry, it was an honest tangent. Well, I don't want that.

Though I think at least in Europe in the middle ages, 15-20 years old for marriage was more common.

Re: Roblox CEO interview about child safety didn't go well

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Post by foogazi »

vintagedave wrote: post #6

I don't have children, but friends and family do, and I had always heard Roblox presented as kid-friendly and kid-safe. This meant I heard about someone's child playing Roblox and, thinking it was kindof an electronic construction set, ie a great learning and play tool,[0] I felt no concerns at all. To describe this interview as a 'car crash' is almost underselling it. I feel terrified. Most of all, what are my frien…

After watching how my kid played Roblox I turned off messaging and never dropped a dime on it

Re: Roblox CEO interview about child safety didn't go well

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Post by mschuster91 »

jackvalentine wrote: post #2

> The CEO seems to believe that the scale of Roblox is somehow an excuse to justify its problems The entire tech industry in a nutshell.

Yup. When it comes to the "FO" part of "FAFO", there are two sweet spots... either you're so piss poor and destitute you can get away with literally robbing trains [1], or you're so large and rich that fines don't matter because it's just another line on the balance sheet. Why care for society at large when you have absolutely nothing to fear?

[1] https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/auburn-gresham-resident...

Re: Roblox CEO interview about child safety didn't go well

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Post by mcphage »

noitpmeder wrote: post #4

To say nothing of the Roblox situation, anyone else having a hard time reading this piece of "reporting"? It reads, to me, as so obviously slanted and opinionated against Roblox from the outset. It's not trying to portray facts, it's clearly trying to make the reader interpret the situation in an anti-roblox light, instead of letting the reader arrive there on their own.

> It reads, to me, as so obviously slanted and opinionated against Roblox from the outset.

When you’re writing about a bad thing, you don’t have to pretend it’s good. Or even neutral. It’s okay to write so that it’s clear that it’s bad.

Re: Roblox CEO interview about child safety didn't go well

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Post by rsynnott »

noitpmeder wrote: post #4

To say nothing of the Roblox situation, anyone else having a hard time reading this piece of "reporting"? It reads, to me, as so obviously slanted and opinionated against Roblox from the outset. It's not trying to portray facts, it's clearly trying to make the reader interpret the situation in an anti-roblox light, instead of letting the reader arrive there on their own.

> When asked about the “scope of the problem” of predators in the application, Baszucki came in shoulders first saying, “We think of it not necessarily just as a problem, but an opportunity as well.”

I mean… how much benefit of the doubt is one expected to give someone who runs a game for kids who sees paedophiles as an ‘opportunity’? Like, this isn’t a criminal trial, it’s a news article. There is no presumption on innocence, and the company’s past is relevant.

Re: Roblox CEO interview about child safety didn't go well

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Post by cocainemonster »

noitpmeder wrote: post #4

To say nothing of the Roblox situation, anyone else having a hard time reading this piece of "reporting"? It reads, to me, as so obviously slanted and opinionated against Roblox from the outset. It's not trying to portray facts, it's clearly trying to make the reader interpret the situation in an anti-roblox light, instead of letting the reader arrive there on their own.

kotaku or any "gaming journalism" articles are like that in general

Re: Roblox CEO interview about child safety didn't go well

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Post by atmavatar »

DonHopkins wrote: post #69
yreg wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Can only add your friends for chat? Is fine. I'm not saying it's not fine (depending on the age), but you won't convince me it's safer then playing Sim City 3000. It is inherently less safe.

I beg your pardon! SimCity incipiently indoctrinates children to believe in crazy stuff like the 9-9-9 tax plan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9%E2%80%939%E2%80%939_Plan

It can also indoctrinate them to becoming mass murderers by spawning huge zombie outbreaks.

Re: Roblox CEO interview about child safety didn't go well

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Post by dgrin91 »

actionfromafar wrote: post #13
noitpmeder wrote: post #4

To say nothing of the Roblox situation, anyone else having a hard time reading this piece of "reporting"? It reads, to me, as so obviously slanted and opinionated against Roblox from the outset. It's not trying to portray facts, it's clearly trying to make the reader interpret the situation in an anti-roblox light, instead of letting the reader arrive there on their own.

It must be tiring though to keep the "neutral" approach for every article. How many benefits of doubts is Roblox owed, really? Asking for a more neutral tone is almost akin to asking for Hunter S Thompson to rewrite "The Kentucky Derby Is Decadent and Depraved" in a more neutral tone.

If a journalist does not at least attempt to present their viewpoint as neutral I will immediate presume they have irrational bias and grow skeptical of what the journalist is telling me - no matter what side of the issue their bias is on. In other words, if you talk to me like a salesman I will presume you are trying to sell me and I wont want to buy.

Talk to me like an adult. Tell me what happened. That doesn't mean sugarcoating it. When I read the quotes and combine that with my existing knowledge of Roblox I can come to my own conclusions just fine.

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