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Germany: States Pass Porn Filters for Operating Systems

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Re: Germany: States Pass Porn Filters for Operating Systems

#81

Always funny to see the senile politicians blaming porn as the biggest threats to children and not their collapsing economies. I'm sure when those kids grow up and work long hours for the rest of their lives (if they can find a job at all!) just to be able to afford rent they'll at least be grateful they weren't able to access porn in their teenage years.

Wouldn't the more reasonable argument be "The economy is failing. Keep the kids gooning to distract them"

Re: Germany: States Pass Porn Filters for Operating Systems

#82
post #31

Always funny to see the senile politicians blaming porn as the biggest threats to children and not their collapsing economies. I'm sure when those kids grow up and work long hours for the rest of their lives (if they can find a job at all!) just to be able to afford rent they'll at least be grateful they weren't able to access porn in their teenage years.

I hate these kinds of bills too, but it's a logical fallacy to address only the single biggest problem (assuming you agree on what it is).

True. The problem is there are no further bills. All other problems aren’t addressed…

Re: Germany: States Pass Porn Filters for Operating Systems

#83

Always funny to see the senile politicians blaming porn as the biggest threats to children and not their collapsing economies. I'm sure when those kids grow up and work long hours for the rest of their lives (if they can find a job at all!) just to be able to afford rent they'll at least be grateful they weren't able to access porn in their teenage years.

While the failing economies definitely is orders of magnitudes more important, the problem of hyper stimulants is definitely worth giving some attention. The effects of porn, SoMe, ultra processed foods, etc. Likely also affect the real economies in ways wondo not yet fully grasp.

> the problem of hyper stimulants is definitely worth giving some attention

True, so we should start by not having every single computing device/service crave for attention, and not surrender our society's social fabric to Meta. Enforcing the GDPR would fix it overnight by making it not profitable, but instead we're relaxing it and doubling down.

Re: Germany: States Pass Porn Filters for Operating Systems

#84

I'm not really afraid of porn. That can be handled by talking with the kid. What I'm afraid of is the kid watching one of those awful NSFL videos. It'll eventually happen, but the later, the better.

> What I'm afraid of is the kid watching one of those awful NSFL videos.

I'm 40 and what are you talking about? I've... seen stuff on the internet, but I think nothing my 15 year old self couldn't handle.

Re: Germany: States Pass Porn Filters for Operating Systems

#85
post #33

The upside: this will be the year of Linux on the desktop!

Until Linux is going to be forced into the same regulation. And then until new laws criminalize attempts to bypass the "porn filter" no matter what you use.

As much as I hate where this might lead, I can't help but amuse myself over a scene like this: You walk up to a bearded fellow in a dark alley and quietly whisper "Stallman..." only for him to quietly respond "... was right.". He then opens his coat for you to choose the install USB of your favorite distro (Arch of course!). He dutifully hands you the stick and a printed copy of the GPLv5 for you to hide in your coat as you walk past the telescreens back to your home.

Re: Germany: States Pass Porn Filters for Operating Systems

#86

Always funny to see the senile politicians blaming porn as the biggest threats to children and not their collapsing economies. I'm sure when those kids grow up and work long hours for the rest of their lives (if they can find a job at all!) just to be able to afford rent they'll at least be grateful they weren't able to access porn in their teenage years.

Who said it's the biggest threat? It's one of many problems which is taking care of. This reads like really poor whataboutism..

> It's one of many problems which is taking care of

I hear about digital freedoms (for porn restrictions, chat message monitoring, etc) being attacked on a weekly basis, often with "think of the children" as a justification.

I don't hear about the fact that Western economies being property-based Ponzi schemes on their last legs being discussed very often, if at all. Instead everyone is trying to extract even more out of it by screwing over the next generations, the very children they are supposed to be thinking of.

Re: Germany: States Pass Porn Filters for Operating Systems

#87
post #34

Always funny to see the senile politicians blaming porn as the biggest threats to children and not their collapsing economies. I'm sure when those kids grow up and work long hours for the rest of their lives (if they can find a job at all!) just to be able to afford rent they'll at least be grateful they weren't able to access porn in their teenage years.

Teach your kids to code, build electronics or tune engines, and they won’t have time for porn.

Don't worry, you will spend all your time working a dead-end job to afford rent (so some retiree can enjoy his life) and taxes (so politicians keep getting paid to propose such stupid bills) so there won't be any time to watch porn anyway.

Re: Germany: States Pass Porn Filters for Operating Systems

#88

Always funny to see the senile politicians blaming porn as the biggest threats to children and not their collapsing economies. I'm sure when those kids grow up and work long hours for the rest of their lives (if they can find a job at all!) just to be able to afford rent they'll at least be grateful they weren't able to access porn in their teenage years.

Porn is damaging at multiple levels, specially for young adults to say nothing of "children". +Should be clear is that exposing children to porn or normalizing porn in no way promotes "healthy economies" either.

Mass surveillance is far more damaging. Also there are several porn block solutions on offer for parents to install on their children's devices. There is absolutely zero need for the government to be regulating mass surveillance on everyone to block porn for children. We are replacing the damage caused by porn on a small handful of people who are predisposed to get addicted and got exposed to it at a young age due to bad parenting, with damaging all of society with mass surveillance, which is not even guaranteed to stop kids from seeing porn.

Re: Germany: States Pass Porn Filters for Operating Systems

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post #81

Always funny to see the senile politicians blaming porn as the biggest threats to children and not their collapsing economies. I'm sure when those kids grow up and work long hours for the rest of their lives (if they can find a job at all!) just to be able to afford rent they'll at least be grateful they weren't able to access porn in their teenage years.

Wouldn't the more reasonable argument be "The economy is failing. Keep the kids gooning to distract them"

Maybe it's similar to the handling of home office. A person at home isn't spending 30 bucks for lunch in the city. The kids have to stop gooning and go back to lurking around in shopping malls

Re: Germany: States Pass Porn Filters for Operating Systems

#90
post #54

> Manufacturers of operating systems, tech associations, and the Free Software Foundation Europe (FSFE) sharply criticize the draft law. They consider the filtering requirement, in particular, to be technically and practically unfeasible, as well as legally questionable.

* you add an HTTP header saying "I am a kid" * porn web servers read and handle this headers * if they don't (easy to test), they get fined It is easy to implement, easy to monitor, and will probably just work if the government do the effort to monitor and enforce it. If not, it will just be an other DNT header

What stops a kid from saying "I am an adult" via this header without some draconian client-side enforcement?
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