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Streaming platform Twitch added to Australia's teen social media ban

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Re: Streaming platform Twitch added to Australia's teen social media ban

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Post by squigz »

crtasm wrote: post #77
oompty wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Almost all streamers have some thirdparty "tip/donation" system set up (usually streamelements/streamlabs via paypal or stripe, sometimes also giving some TTS effects on stream) so that's still possible.

>streamelements/streamlabs I tried donating via one of these a while ago and got stopped by a requirement to link a Twitch account. Could you give an example of a donation page on there without that requirement?

I'm pretty sure Twitch/YT handles the payment processing; StreamElements/StreamLabs only provides things like the TTS stuff

Re: Streaming platform Twitch added to Australia's teen social media ban

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Post by squigz »

akimbostrawman wrote: post #69
my_throwaway23 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitch is not a "cam girl site targeted at kids". It's primarily people playing games, and streaming said games.

It has not been primarily gaming for at least +5 years. Just take a look at the homepage and categories.

The only 2 non-gaming categories I saw were Chatting/IRL and Music. The majority of streams appear to still be gaming.

Re: Streaming platform Twitch added to Australia's teen social media ban

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Post by ares623 »

sunaookami wrote: post #54
ares623 wrote: post #4

I wish they would’ve just banned smartphones and tablets for kids. Same thing how alcohol is banned. Sure parents will still buy them for their kids but at least for a few hours a day they’ll need to leave the devices at home.

The problem is and has always been parenting and not electronical devices.

There’s immense societal pressure to be on these apps.

We tried for years to not have our kids use these apps. We were doing okay during covid lockdowns. But after lockdowns, when we needed to be with other people, and our kids needed to be with other kids, we caved.

Unless every parent collectively decides (or are forced, hint hint) to not give their kids the devices. The kids will become social outcasts without them.

Re: Streaming platform Twitch added to Australia's teen social media ban

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Post by crtasm »

squigz wrote: post #81
crtasm wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>streamelements/streamlabs I tried donating via one of these a while ago and got stopped by a requirement to link a Twitch account. Could you give an example of a donation page on there without that requirement?

I'm pretty sure Twitch/YT handles the payment processing; StreamElements/StreamLabs only provides things like the TTS stuff

They run their own donations platform as far as I can tell, you can add various payment processors: https://streamlabs.com/donations

Re: Streaming platform Twitch added to Australia's teen social media ban

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Post by someNameIG »

throwaway48476 wrote: post #22
mulquin wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They will most likely utilise some sort of system where a photo or short video are uploaded and an AI will make a determination of age. It’s not going to be accurate but will probably be compliant enough.

Then they will say it's broken and demand digital ID to 'fix' it.

The law speifically reuired non-ID methods

> Specifies that no Australian will be compelled to use government identification (including Digital ID) to prove their age online, and platforms must offer reasonable alternatives to users,

> Establishes robust privacy protections, placing limitations on the use of information collected by platforms for the purposes of satisfying the minimum age obligation, and requiring the destruction of information following its use

https://www.infrastructure.gov.au/sites/default/files/docume...

Re: Streaming platform Twitch added to Australia's teen social media ban

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Post by mulquin »

throwaway48476 wrote: post #22
mulquin wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They will most likely utilise some sort of system where a photo or short video are uploaded and an AI will make a determination of age. It’s not going to be accurate but will probably be compliant enough.

Then they will say it's broken and demand digital ID to 'fix' it.

Roblox has already begun to roll something out. I’m anticipating about 6-12 months we’ll start hearing news about privacy concerns and all these photos of children have been leaked.

Re: Streaming platform Twitch added to Australia's teen social media ban

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Post by n00bscure »

n00bscure wrote: post #63
gnarlouse wrote: post #3

This doesn’t strike me as “bad”. Seeing the content on Twitch and how parasocial it is, it doesn’t seem healthy for kids under 18 tbh. Like Facebook was the craze when I was exiting highschool, and then it was instagram/snapchat/twitter through college. “Quitting” social media was one of the healthiest adult choices I ever made—comparison is the thief of joy, blah blah blah.

Some 'performers' need comparison to not be whiny little bitches. Some parents make sure their kids get amphetamines before puberty, or testosterone shots. Just so that they come out on top in comparison. If it's not enough, some go as far as to sabotage other families and to poison other kids. This whole social media thing is all that on a global scale. Just a bit more subtle in the early days. But it's still poison…

so you litte wanker downvote without adding context? we can have a public debate, if you want. I won't prepare. I'm in the bottom 1% of our species, if you need assurance that you are capable of making me smile with respect for who you are ( I've met very very few who are, but ALL of them have more than I do )

Re: Streaming platform Twitch added to Australia's teen social media ban

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Post by dyauspitr »

squigz wrote: post #49
dyauspitr wrote: post #21

This doesn’t go far enough. Kids under 18 shouldn’t be allowed to use smartphones period.

Why just smartphones? Why not all computers?

Not portable and always accessible. It makes a huge difference.

Re: Streaming platform Twitch added to Australia's teen social media ban

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Post by viktorcode »

dyauspitr wrote: post #18
viktorcode wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This list indeed seems to be a random selection

Seems reasonable to me.

If the aim was to limit children exposure to social messengers, then Discord absolutely must be on the list. I don't know the backstory, but it seems to be a typical exercise of political power by the people lacking expertise in the field.
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