The coming of AI seems one of those things like the agricultural revolution or industrial revolution that is kind of inevitable once it starts. All the business of who pays how much for which stock and what price is sensible and which algorithm seem kind of secondary.
AI is a front for consolidation of resources and power
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#82This is what I wonder to, what is the end game? Advance technology so that we can have anything that we want, whenever we want it. Fly to distant galaxies. Increase the options available to us and our offspring. But ultimately, what will we gain from that? Is it to say that we did it or is it for the pleasure of the process? If it's for pleasure, then why have we made our processes so miserable for everyone involved?…
> Fly to distant galaxies Unless AI can change the laws of physics, extremely unlikely.
I see, Fly was perhaps the wrong word to use here.
Phase-Shift to new galaxies is probably the right term.
Where you change your entire system's resonant frequency, to match what exists in the distant galaxy.
Less of transportation, and more of a change of focus.
Like the way we can daydream about a galaxy, then snap-back to work. It's the same mechanism, but with enhanced focus you go from not just visualising > feeling > embodying > grounding in the new location.
We do it all the time, however because we require belief that it's possible in order to maintain our location, whenever we question where we are - we're pulled back into the reality that questions things (it's a very Earth centric way of seeing reality)
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can maybe order in a restaurant or ask the way with hand gestures. But surely you must be able to take a higher perspective than your own, and realize that there's enormous amounts of exchange between nations with differing language, and all of this relies on some form of translation. Hundreds of millions of people all over the world have to deal with language barriers. Google Translate was far from solid, the qu…
LLMs are here and Google Translate is still bad (surely, if it was easy as just plugging the miraculous perfect llms into it, it would be perfect now?), I don't think people who think we've somehow solved translation actually understand how much it still deals extremely poorly with. And as others have said, language is more than just "I understand these words, this other person understands my words" (in the most lite…
What argument are you making? LLM translating is available to anybody to try and use right now, and you can use services like Kagi Translate or DeepL to see the evidence for yourself that they make excellent translations. I honestly don't care what Google Translate does, because nobody who is serious about translation uses it.
> And as others have said, language is more than just "I understand these words, this other person understands my words" (in the most literal sense, ignoring nuance here), but try getting that across to someone who believes you can solve language with a technical solution :)
The kind of deeply understood communication you are demanding is usually impossible even between people who have the same native tongue, from the same town and even within the same family. And people can misunderstand each other just fine without the help of AI. However, is it better to understand nothing at all, then to not understand every nuance?
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#84There are some flavors of AI doomerism that I'm unwilling to fight - the proliferance of AI slop, the inability of our current capital paradigm to adjust such that loads of people don't become overnight-poor, those sorts of things.
If you tell me, though, that "We installed AI in a place that wasn't designed around it and it didn't work" you're essentially complaining that your horse-drawn cart broke when you hooked it up to your HEMI. Of course it didn't work. The value proposition built around the concept of long dev cycles with huge teams and multiple-9s reliability deliverables is not what this stuff excels at.
I have churned out perfectly functional MVPs for tens of projects in a matter of weeks. I've created robust frameworks with >90% test coverage for fringe projects that would never have otherwise gotten the time budget allotted to them. The boundaries of what can be done aren't being pushed up higher or down deeper, they're being pushed out laterally. This is very good in a distributed sense, but not so great for business as usual - we've had megacorps consolidating and building vertically forever and we've forgotten what it was like to have a robust hacker culture with loads of scrappy teams forging unbeaten paths.
Ironically, VCs have completely missed the point in trying to all build pickaxes - there's a ton of mining to do in this new space (but the risk profile makes the finance-pilled queasy). We need both.
AI is already very good at some things, they just don't look like the things people were expecting.
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#85My new thing with articles like these: just search for the word "water".
I think that what is really behind the AI bubble is the same thing behind most money, power, and influence: land and resources. The AI future that is promised, whether to you and me or to the billionaires, requires the same thing: lots of energy, lots of land, and lots of water. Datacenters that outburn cities to keep the data churning are big, expensive, and have to be built somewhere. The deals made to develop this kind of property are political — they affect cities and states more than just about any other business run within their borders.
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#86The use case for AI is spam.
It's the reverse printing press, drowning all purposeful human communication in noise.
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#87“As a designer…” IMHO the bleeding edge of what’s working well with LLMs is within software engineering because we’re building for ourselves, first. Claude code is incredible. Where I work, there are an incredible number of custom agents that integrate with our internal tooling. Many make me very productive and are worthwhile. I find it hard to buy in to opinions of non-SWE on the uselessness of AI solely because I t…
I think the question is whether those ai tools make you produce more value. Anecdotally, the ai tools have changed the workflow and allowed me to produce more tools etc.
They have not necessarily changed the rate at which I produce valuable outputs (yet).
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#88“As a designer…” IMHO the bleeding edge of what’s working well with LLMs is within software engineering because we’re building for ourselves, first. Claude code is incredible. Where I work, there are an incredible number of custom agents that integrate with our internal tooling. Many make me very productive and are worthwhile. I find it hard to buy in to opinions of non-SWE on the uselessness of AI solely because I t…
All I see it doing, as a SWE, is limiting the speed at which my co-workers learn and worsening the quality of their output. Finally many are noticing this and using it less...
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#89The use case for AI is spam.
Another major use case for it is enabling students to more easily cheat on their homework. Which is why it is probably going to end up putting Chegg out of business.
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#90“As a designer…” IMHO the bleeding edge of what’s working well with LLMs is within software engineering because we’re building for ourselves, first. Claude code is incredible. Where I work, there are an incredible number of custom agents that integrate with our internal tooling. Many make me very productive and are worthwhile. I find it hard to buy in to opinions of non-SWE on the uselessness of AI solely because I t…
I think that's also because Claude Code (and LLMs) is built by engineers who think of their target audience as engineers; they can only think of the world through their own lenses.
Kind of how for the longest time, Google used to be best at finding solutions to programming problems and programming documentation: say, a Google built by librarians would have a totally different slant.
Perhaps that's why designers don't see it yet, no designers have built Claude's 'world-view'.