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Broccoli Man, Remastered

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Re: Broccoli Man, Remastered

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Post by kridsdale3 »

defen wrote: post #72
jeffbee wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The bureaucracy is why people trust Google with their data. I wouldn't use a Google if I thought they didn't have BCID and proto field provenance and the rest of it.

How are you supposed to know that if you're evaluating whether to use a tool / service?

I wish I had an answer for you. I spend at least half of the past year trying to make that decision. The internal LLM that can read all the docs and code, you'd think, could get the context to know what the optimal state is, but it easily gets confused by out of date documentation and recommends paths that are going to be marked as "why didn't you use the new thing?" at review time, OR it builds out a solution using "oh, this isn't ready for use yet" parts.

Re: Broccoli Man, Remastered

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Post by kridsdale3 »

shadowgovt wrote: post #67
jeffbee wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The bureaucracy is why people trust Google with their data. I wouldn't use a Google if I thought they didn't have BCID and proto field provenance and the rest of it.

Agreed. Google long ago passed the event horizon where they could keep pretending they were not mission-critical infrastructure for a significant portion of their users, and (from privacy to reliability) I'm glad they've put in structure to enforce acting like it, even if that means they no longer feel like working at a startup. Everyone who wants to work at a startup knows where to find the rest of Silicon Valley (a…

I was at Meta when it was forced by the FTC to start adding this compliance stuff. It SUCKED to retrofit everything.

Now I'm at google, and onboarded on to the version of the infra that already went through that, and I can take it all at face value. It is a PAIN still, but this is the reality of a system that interfaces with O(10^8) users, O(10^2) governments.

Re: Broccoli Man, Remastered

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Post by lanyard-textile »

swiftcoder wrote: post #57
lanyard-textile wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh we’re at this stage of AI huh :) “No it was always slop!!!! Nyeh!”

Feeding text into a machine-learning based app that creates low-effort audio and visuals? Yeah, that's always been slop. I don't use "slop" in a particularly negative sense here, it is what it is

It’s an intriguing use of the word I’ll admit — I think it’s a bit of a loaded term atm though. Overwhelmingly negative, anecdotally.

Re: Broccoli Man, Remastered

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Post by awalsh128 »

hiddencost wrote: post #22
haburka wrote: post #2

I do wish they updated this to 2026 google! I don’t think it would be nearly as interesting though since they do get rid of most red tape but since everything is enterprise scale, it’s never easy.

Huh? The bureaucracy is way worse. BCID requirements. MDBs that take 4+ hours to roll out. The Byzantine array of different MDB group types, often with two party control. GDPR company compliance. Tagging proto fields with provenance. Documents are private by default now. Most support happens in chat groups, and is if you're not at deepmind your help requests are getting ignored. Spending a month filing GUTS tickets t…

This is only an issue when you need to migrate services. I can't get into details but much of this isn't a problem anymore.

Re: Broccoli Man, Remastered

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Post by fuzzy_biscuit »

shadowgovt wrote: post #64
TheGamerUncle wrote: post #38

>I am not the kind of person who thinks AI will replace actors blah blah blah. But I am glad these tools exist, because this video wouldn’t exist without AI. >In no world would I ever have put together a real cast and crew to remake a 15 year old inside joke video for Googlers, but I was able to make it with AI. BUT IT DID !! and part of the charm is that this involved real people talking, mutual understanding and a…

The original video existed because Xtranormal.com lets you transform a written script into an auto-generated scene with procedurally-puppeted wireframed stock models and text-to-speech voice acting. Any assertion that the world in which Broccoli Man was created was fundamentally different (in terms of "relying on someone else's framework to do a low-effort meme") from today is nostaglia. In fact, I suspect mbleigh sp…

I think calling it nostalgia is a bit too charitable. I see it more as a delusion.

Re: Broccoli Man, Remastered

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Post by xgulfie »

TheGamerUncle wrote: post #38

>I am not the kind of person who thinks AI will replace actors blah blah blah. But I am glad these tools exist, because this video wouldn’t exist without AI. >In no world would I ever have put together a real cast and crew to remake a 15 year old inside joke video for Googlers, but I was able to make it with AI. BUT IT DID !! and part of the charm is that this involved real people talking, mutual understanding and a…

ugh but that requires like, effort

Re: Broccoli Man, Remastered

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Post by mbleigh »

PlanksVariable wrote: post #76
TheGamerUncle wrote: post #38

>I am not the kind of person who thinks AI will replace actors blah blah blah. But I am glad these tools exist, because this video wouldn’t exist without AI. >In no world would I ever have put together a real cast and crew to remake a 15 year old inside joke video for Googlers, but I was able to make it with AI. BUT IT DID !! and part of the charm is that this involved real people talking, mutual understanding and a…

Have you ever watched the original? It most certainly did not involve real people talking ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t6L-FlfeaI ). In fact, the overtly robotic voices added to the humor of the original, IMO. It was lost in this translation.

FWIW I actually agree that the original is funnier in its delivery!

Re: Broccoli Man, Remastered

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Post by mbleigh »

efficax wrote: post #23

the deadpan emotionless delivery of the original memes are an important part of their humor. this remaster looks fancy but loses the entire spirit of the thing

Yeah, it does lose something in the more realistic performances. Was still fun to play with though!
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