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Re: Why CUDA translation wont unlock AMD

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Post by jfalcon »

CUDA isn't all that and a bag of chips. It just is the Facebook/Twitter of the data science and from that LLM space. There are Tensor processors and other ASIC processing for specific compute functions that can give Nvidia a challenge but it's not unknown to every gamer that there has always been a performance difference between Nvidia and AMD/ATI.

Ok, point made Nvidia. Kudos.

ATI had their moment in the sun before ASIC ate their cryptocurrency lunch. So both still had/have relevance outside gaming. But, I see Intel is starting to take GPU space seriously and they shouldn't be ruled out.

And as mentioned elsewhere in the comments, there is Vulkan. There is also this idea of virtualized GPU as now the bottleneck isn't CPU... it's now GPU. As I mentioned there are Tensors, Moore's Law thresholds coming back again with 1 nanometer manufacturing, there is going to be a point where we hit a threshold again with current chips and we will have a change in technology - again.

So while Nvidia is living the life - unless they have a crystal ball of how tensors are going to go that they can move CUDA towards, there is going to be a "co-processor" future coming up and with that the next step towards NPUs will be taken. This is where Apple is aligning itself because, after all, they had the money and just said "Nope, we'll license this round out..."

AMD isn't out yet. They, along with Intel and others, just need to figure out where the next bottlenecks are and build those toll bridges.

Re: Why CUDA translation wont unlock AMD

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Post by bigyabai »

measurablefunc wrote: post #69
bigyabai wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, and thieves probably recommend that the cops move on & refrain from following where they're headed. Be honest and you won't have to fend-off accusations of bad-faith. I'm inclined to agree with your overall point of AI being overhyped, but you've gutted your own logic so hard in the process that your stance is unrecognizable. You've developed a meaningfully ambiguous stance to an elaborate and deeply incorrect…

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I didn't even read the first iteration of your profile. If your stance can't be substantiated without hidden subtext, you're not making a good point.

Your future comments are definitely going to be flagged unless you switch to a good-faith writing style.

Re: Why CUDA translation wont unlock AMD

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Post by measurablefunc »

bigyabai wrote: post #82
measurablefunc wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I didn't even read the first iteration of your profile. If your stance can't be substantiated without hidden subtext, you're not making a good point. Your future comments are definitely going to be flagged unless you switch to a good-faith writing style.

Doesn't bother me either way but you can keep trying to pathologize instead of actually making substantive points to address anything I have actually clearly laid out.

Re: Why CUDA translation wont unlock AMD

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Post by measurablefunc »

Daedren wrote: post #73
measurablefunc wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They keep promising that this kind of capability is right around the corner & they keep showing how awesome they are at passing math exams so why is this a more difficult problem than solving problems in abstract algebra & scheme theory on humanity's last exam or whatever is the latest & greatest benchmark for mathematical capabilities?

They all have to make promises and have to dream big to keep the AI bubble from popping.

I agree which is why it's a bit odd that so many people still think that Sam Altman & Elon Musk are honest technologists instead of unscrupulous grifters.
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