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Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by 9rx »

GoatInGrey wrote: post #66
9rx wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I’m hard pressed to find another person that is from the millennial generation that has been a persistent “public figure” as long and persistently than Zuck. Prince William and Prince Harry have him beat on that front, surely? They've been persistent public figures since birth. And if we limit it to modern times, Taylor Swift has got to be way more well known. Even my young kids know who Taylor Swift is. They have…

Remind me which prince it was that moved to the US and is cut off from the royal family? Was that William?

Exactly. If Zuckerberg moved to a new home, nobody would ever know. But when Prince Harry does, it's headline news. You may have forgotten his exact name, but a name is only one property of many when it comes to knowing someone. That you know intimate details of his life is telling about how is more well-known.

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by latexr »

virgilp wrote: post #71
latexr wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you aware that Ed Sheeran is one of—and was not that long ago the —best selling music artist in the world? The fact you only nitpicked a single name from that list is, I think, quite telling. We know who Zuckerberg is. Non-tech-nerds just going on with their lives don’t for the most part, even if they use apps from Meta. If they even heard the name, it was due to some negative news related to Facebook or Meta.

This is some data about US: https://today.yougov.com/ratings/entertainment/fame/people/a... Zuckerberg is 49, Sheeran is 169 (Taylor Swift is on 4; Bieber, Lady Gaga and Beyoncé are also more famous than Zuckerberg; the rest in the list are less famous)

> This is some data about US

Which, by definition, is incomplete when we’re talking about the world. If we examined by country, it would fluctuate wildly. For example, in any country with soccer as the national sport, Ronaldo would crush Zuckerberg in popularity.

Either way, the point (in which I think we’re all mostly in agreement) is that Zuckerberg’s comment falls somewhere between the absurd and the delusional. If you want to pick a different list of names, go right ahead. I’d say Tailor Swift is indisputable, though.

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by planewave »

HEmanZ wrote: post #76

Is “techmails.com” a trustworthy source? This seems like a made up thread. Although plausible enough to seem real.

Yes, this site usually publishes emails released into the public record via court cases.

This exchange is cited as:

  [This document is from Tennessee v. Meta (2024).]

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by xg15 »

> We have a team working on an ambitious long term project on loneliness/isolation which, again, has the potential to hold particular appeal to the Millennial sentiments set out in the paper. The latest plans will be presented to Mark next week.

With the goal to reduce it, right?

...right?

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by disambiguation »

Wow am I reading this correctly? To recap:

- They're going to run Zuck for president to beat the millennial socialist zeitgeist.

- They're going to use generational warfare to stage an institutional coup.

> we need to do better than simply dismiss them by saying that they are stupid or entitled or brainwashed

Classy.

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by benrutter »

> When Mark and Priscilla commit to giving away 99% of their wealth during their lifetimes

I hadn't heard this before but googling it seems like a genuine commitment at the time[0]. I mostly feel like Zuck isn't making the world a better place, but this sounds really impressive as a commitment - any idea if this commitments been stuck to now we're around 10 years on?

[0] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34978249

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by vvpan »

throwaway20222 wrote: post #68
vvpan wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And Elon Musk does Nazi salutes in-front of the nation and just goes back to being CEO of things.

Why the down votes? Should I not believe my own eyes?

If it was not a guy who regularly engages with and thus gives platform to neo-Nazi accounts on X I might've considered giving him the benefit of doubt.

It is very easy to find specific accounts that Musk brings readers to (or you can just be on X and follow him):

https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-x-blocked-journalists-...

https://www.sacurrent.com/news/revealed-the-operators-behind...

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by latexr »

ben_w wrote: post #72
tempfile wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This absolutely does not translate into him being well-known.

People don't buy Facebook ads or make Facebook accounts because Mark Zuckerberg is there, but they do buy Ed Sheeran music because it has the name "Ed Sheeran" written on it. That said, I'm not into music and assumed he was a footballer.

> That said, I'm not into music and assumed he was a footballer.

Same (minus the footballer part). When I was made aware of Ed Sheeran, he was already the biggest artist in the world. But that says something about me and my general disinterest for music and pop culture, not Sheeran’s popularity.

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Post by hearsathought »

tedivm wrote: post #3

> While our company has a special role in the lives of this generation, this is likely particularly important for how I show up because I am the most well-known person of my generation. They really are up their own asses so much in this thread. Just the arrogance of these people absolutely kills me.

That Meta/facebook had a special role in the lives of his generation is not up for debate. It's a fact. Also, zuckerburg probably meant he was the "most well-known person in tech" of his generation, which is true. But expanding it beyond tech, he definitely is as well-known as anyone else in his generation. Everyone in his generation knows what facebook is. Everyone in his generation knows zuckerburg.

The guy may be arrogant, but nothing about his statement was arrogant. He was stating facts.

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by HEmanZ »

planewave wrote: post #83
HEmanZ wrote: post #76

Is “techmails.com” a trustworthy source? This seems like a made up thread. Although plausible enough to seem real.

Yes, this site usually publishes emails released into the public record via court cases. This exchange is cited as: [This document is from Tennessee v. Meta (2024).]

And where is that document? I can claim this document is from wherever if there is no way to find that document.

Sorry this just reads way too much like fiction and if I have two hypotheses about its origin:

1. Real court document that I can’t find the source for and have to trust a random substack is telling me is real.

2. AI generated conversation for views.

I’m inclined to the second these days.

But if it’s real: the fact that guys real life conversations read like satire is telling…

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