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Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not

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Re: Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not

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Did you know that the State of California has a DNA sample from every person born in the state since 1983? It's required by law for the hospital to collect it and give it to the state.

The trick is that you don't elect someone like Donald Trump. I just read on the BBC that the president of America threatened New Yorkers not to vote for Mamdani. People in the Netherlands trust their government because noone in the 500 years of history has ever gotten close to getting dictatorial power unless you count Napoleon and Hitler.

Despite the downvotes you are right that democracies mostly deliver what voters want. And if voters want silly things, they get silly things.

It's easy to fret at how dysfunctional and insane politics are. But after you talk to some actual voters (and look at opinion polls), instead you marvel at how comparatively sane policies manage to be---despite voters.

Re: Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not

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How is this news, the usgov has been taking my biometrics for the past 5 years

Have they? They haven't taken mine.

The TSA uses facial recognition right now at most US airports. While they claim to not store the pictures, they've "accidentally" stored data many other times they promised not to so consider me skeptical.

Re: Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not

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Hilariously, this is the second Sam that wants to collect everyones iris's for nefarious purposes

This WorldCoin image will forever live rent free in my head: https://www.crikey.com.au/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2023/08...

"How does it work?"

"It's magic. All technology is."

Re: Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This WorldCoin image will forever live rent free in my head: https://www.crikey.com.au/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2023/08...

"How does it work?" "It's magic. All technology is."

Given that we don’t know why electromagnetism exists, this is basically true for many technologies.

Re: Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not

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EU's recently rejected chat control looks like child's play compared to this. These are some Stasi methods that are going to destroy the US if implemented. Europe already went through creating dossier on citizens in the past, the next immediate step is always fascism. Nothing good comes out of fascism, as the history showed.

To be honest, one could argue that places like Singapore turned on amazingly well by most metrics.

Isn’t that a quote from The Mandalorian?

> It is a shame that your people suffered so. Just as in this situation, it was all avoidable. Why did Mandalore resist our expansion? The Empire improves every system it touches. Judge by any metric. Safety, prosperity, trade, opportunity, peace. Compare Imperial rule to what is happening now. Look outside. Is the world more peaceful since the revolution? I see nothing but death and chaos.

Re: Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not

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Unsurprising. India, which given its colonial-era ruling-elites who are maniacally obsessed with the Anglosphere, is today considered a "laboratory" for doing social experiments that'd be considered a outrage against human dignity in their own countries. This country was the first in line not only the biometric identification projects (Aadhar), and for demonetization (of 2016 with UPI). All of these were funded and p…

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Re: Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not

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You can submit a public comment on the proposal to DHS at the link below: https://www.regulations.gov/document/USCIS-2025-0205-0002/co...

I suspect this government isn’t receptive to commentary from anyone other than only one person. While I’d never discourage anyone from advocating their beliefs this feels like at best a waste of energy. They are going to do it because they decided to do it - the solicitation of comments is performative and required. The only way to stop it is via the courts and by voting next November.

Re: Uncle Sam wants to scan your iris and collect your DNA, citizen or not

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Did you know that the State of California has a DNA sample from every person born in the state since 1983? It's required by law for the hospital to collect it and give it to the state.

This is a particularly incendiary way of putting this information out there. What is collected and stored is a small blood-spot sample from a heel prick on a newborn. This is used to test for various kinds of conditions that affect newborns. This isn't a full DNA genome sequence or even any data at all, just the blood-spot specimen. Law enforcement does not have automatic access to this sample, but individual samples…

No, they are correct, and it's disingenuous to claim otherwise. They have a DNA sample of everyone. Those samples haven't been sequenced. As you've pointed out, they are sequenced when the state needs them to be.

It would be like scanning your drivers license and putting it in a sealed envelope and claiming "I don't have your home address!", when I'm known to get the home address from other peoples envelopes when asked for it.

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