Are they in ChatGPT and other LLM providers? No need for Google.
That's a good question: When LLM providers receive DMCA takedowns, how easily can they implement them? Use a post-LLM filter?
Google Removed 749M Anna's Archive URLs from Its Search Results
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Re: Google Removed 749M Anna's Archive URLs from Its Search Results
#82Are they in ChatGPT and other LLM providers? No need for Google.
That's a good question: When LLM providers receive DMCA takedowns, how easily can they implement them? Use a post-LLM filter?
I was more suggesting that I want my LLM provider to launder the IP so it avoids copyright law. The LLM provider is a fancy search engine where copyright does not apply to the results.
Re: Google Removed 749M Anna's Archive URLs from Its Search Results
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's a good question: When LLM providers receive DMCA takedowns, how easily can they implement them? Use a post-LLM filter?
I was more suggesting that I want my LLM provider to launder the IP so it avoids copyright law. The LLM provider is a fancy search engine where copyright does not apply to the results.
Do LLMs filter piracy requests? For example, how will it respond to 'find me a free copy of the Lord of the Rings movies' or more explicitly 'find me a pirated copy ...'?
Re: Google Removed 749M Anna's Archive URLs from Its Search Results
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you show me what results you see for “locking”? I see dancing move in all profiles I have.
Wow you're right. Locking dance moves and videos. Weere you expecting to see padlocks or doorlocks or what?
I expected to be “personalized”. I’m definitely more into programming than dancing. I see 0 personalization tbh. And I tried a few different peoples phones.
Re: Google Removed 749M Anna's Archive URLs from Its Search Results
#85Anna's archive has already fulfilled G's needs (training Gemini) so now it's time to pretend it never existed ;)
It's not delisted. Anna's Archive is huge. The fact that Google participates in an entirely voluntary transparency log that gives you this information should illustrate to you where they stand on the issue of their needing to be compliant to the DMCA. It isn't clear to me why online communities constantly invent fan fiction of evil enemies when organizations merely comply with a reasonable interpretation of the law of the land they are incorporated in.
Re: Google Removed 749M Anna's Archive URLs from Its Search Results
#86Anna's archive has already fulfilled G's needs (training Gemini) so now it's time to pretend it never existed ;)
It's not delisted. Anna's Archive is huge. The fact that Google participates in an entirely voluntary transparency log that gives you this information should illustrate to you where they stand on the issue of their needing to be compliant to the DMCA. It isn't clear to me why online communities constantly invent fan fiction of evil enemies when organizations merely comply with a reasonable interpretation of the law o…
no one, and i mean no one, has to invent the history of evil corporations doing evil things. Climate change? Cigarettes?, shit let's go modern. CZ? SBF?
if it's not clear to you may i suggest with the upmost respect that you read surveillance capitalism by zuboff (a successor to manufactured consent in my humble opinion).
I guess my question is where do you get the confidence or belief these companies are doing anything BUT evil? how many of americas biggest companies' workers need food aid from the govt? look up what % of army grunts are food insecure. in the heart of empire.
Where on earth do you get this faith in companies from?
Re: Google Removed 749M Anna's Archive URLs from Its Search Results
#87Anna's archive has already fulfilled G's needs (training Gemini) so now it's time to pretend it never existed ;)
It's not delisted. Anna's Archive is huge. The fact that Google participates in an entirely voluntary transparency log that gives you this information should illustrate to you where they stand on the issue of their needing to be compliant to the DMCA. It isn't clear to me why online communities constantly invent fan fiction of evil enemies when organizations merely comply with a reasonable interpretation of the law o…
100%
Here in Germany its invisible deleted, and the process handle by a private company
Re: Google Removed 749M Anna's Archive URLs from Its Search Results
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've been playing around with a variety of search engines such as Kagi, Startpage, Ecosia, DDG. All of them are better than google in finding relevant results. Lol Google is way too "personalized".
Google hides the most relevant results on the 3rd page. It was confirmed in trial disclosures a few months ago. Their concern isn’t public search.
Edit: after the 3rd page
Source: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18552824/1436/united-st...
For fun what Gemini says: “The notion that Google explicitly admitted to "deprioritizing good results to sell more ads" is a common interpretation of these documents and expert testimony.”
Re: Google Removed 749M Anna's Archive URLs from Its Search Results
#89Anna's archive has already fulfilled G's needs (training Gemini) so now it's time to pretend it never existed ;)
It's not delisted. Anna's Archive is huge. The fact that Google participates in an entirely voluntary transparency log that gives you this information should illustrate to you where they stand on the issue of their needing to be compliant to the DMCA. It isn't clear to me why online communities constantly invent fan fiction of evil enemies when organizations merely comply with a reasonable interpretation of the law o…
Apparently corpo doesn’t hesitate to remove it when it benefits consumer, because “we just follow the law, citizen!” But when it benefits corpo it takes decades of suing and multi-billion fines to make a change.
Totally not evil, just business, comrade, amirite?
Re: Google Removed 749M Anna's Archive URLs from Its Search Results
#90Google does search now? I mean, it's great to see but I'm not sure how this is going to challenge the convenience of my chosen brand of chatbot being able to find the same info without being scammed by 100 seo optimised junk sites.
No matter what my chosen brand of chatbot is, it can't help but hallucinate between 25% and 90% of the links it offers me. If it's not it's just proxying a google search for you itself.
That honestly sounds like you're using your bot (accidentally) in offline mode. Try a simple search on perplexity first and see if you get valid links, then try chatgpt/ai studio with internet search on.