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I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Post by Spooky23 »

ACCount37 wrote: post #74
monero-xmr wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Security products and practitioners are the classic snake oil salesmen. They are actually sales and marketing roles for help closing deals by emphasizing some security aspect. True security comes from general IT practices followed by engineers themselves.

I would be wary of making categorical claims like this, but it's unfortunately true that "security" field hasn't been doing well in a long, long time now. Half the field is B2B "magic bullet" solutions like CrowdStrike and all the associated sales tactics - with pitches that boil down to "you give us money, we make your security issues go away". Half of what remains is mandatory certifications and other flavors of ch…

I agree with you totally, although I'd venture to guess 20% is way too high. I'd say you have about 10% people doing security work, 15% doing compliance, and the rest are consuming oxygen.

It's a growth field, so you have lots of idiots getting certifications and stupid jobs. Reminds me of the 90s when I started, and companies were paying MCSE's (ie read a book, hit next-next-finish in Windows NT) more than software engineers in some markets.

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Post by mattlutze »

raesene9 wrote: post #23
the_arun wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also decline in Security engineer by 0.35% doesn't make sense by conventional wisdom. Shouldn't it be increasing due to increased demand for security in all ai integrations?

I wouldn't be surprised by a drop in security postings. Quite a few companies view security as an "overhead" so the siren call of reducing that overhead by introducing AI is a thing. Also for a lot of jobs in security it's pretty hard to measure how well it's being done, so if the AI based solutions are worse, that might not show up for a while

We also need to consider the confounding effect of corporate performance and recession expectations.

Cost centers in businesses are early canaries of expected pain, and a reduction in security roles may reflect belt-tightening irrespective of AI impact.

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Post by AznHisoka »

xtracto wrote: post #63
AznHisoka wrote: post #40

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OP here. You're right to be skeptical, there's an API here if you want to see a sample of the data: https://docs.bloomberry.com/reference/get_signals-jobs-json#...

Hey, I liked the analysis thanks! Any reason why you removed SDRs, Account Executives and similar Sales related roles? I would love to see how that compares to the data you do present. Thanks for sharing your work.

I added a section on sales jobs just now: https://bloomberry.com/blog/i-analyzed-180m-jobs-to-see-what...

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Post by jeffbee »

tayo42 wrote: post #80
jeffbee wrote: post #29

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It's because journalists are still big mad that the internet wrecked the newspaper business, therefore the news constantly reports lies about how the tech industry is collapsing. The more news you watch and the less personal contact you have with the industry, the more likely you are to believe that techies are jumping out of office windows in despair (hi, Mom).

The job market is terrible, pay is stagnate and remote work is being taken away and the biggest companies despite profits are laying off large amounts of people. I don't think that's fud

I don't see how you can hold that this job market is "terrible" in a frame of reference of the last 50 years, unless you were born fully-grown in a vat exactly 4 years ago.

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Post by billy99k »

the_arun wrote: post #22
svnt wrote: post #8

Completely absent is quantity of jobs. If e.g. ml engineer job postings go +40% from 200 to 280 and writer job postings go -50% (over two years) from 20000 to 10000, then we have a better idea of the impact. Without those data this report isn’t really quantifying impact on “180M jobs.”

Also decline in Security engineer by 0.35% doesn't make sense by conventional wisdom. Shouldn't it be increasing due to increased demand for security in all ai integrations?

I think it's because companies are moving away from in-house security and hiring 3rd party companies for security work. It also depends on the time of year this was taken. Q4 is the busiest time for security. Q1 is the slowest.

I'm a security consultant and work with multiple companies that provide security services. Work has increased massively in the last year.

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Post by malshe »

Epa095 wrote: post #39

There is no causality analysis here, and really no justification for why AI is the reason for these job losses. An alternative explanation is the tariffs.

Same is true for sustainability related jobs. Given the backlash first from Texas, Florida, and other red states and now from the Trump administration, it is not at all surprising that these jobs are in decline. AI has nothing to do with it.

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Post by parineum »

tayo42 wrote: post #80
jeffbee wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's because journalists are still big mad that the internet wrecked the newspaper business, therefore the news constantly reports lies about how the tech industry is collapsing. The more news you watch and the less personal contact you have with the industry, the more likely you are to believe that techies are jumping out of office windows in despair (hi, Mom).

The job market is terrible, pay is stagnate and remote work is being taken away and the biggest companies despite profits are laying off large amounts of people. I don't think that's fud

> the biggest companies despite profits are laying off large amounts of people.

Hi is the need for employees related to profit?

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Post by hylaride »

estimator7292 wrote: post #79
ricardobeat wrote: post #76

The decline in frontend engineering jobs matches my personal impression from the past year. Smaller companies can do a lot with vibe coding alone, while larger companies can multiply their FE team productivity without making any new hires. Frontend code can be very repetitive / labour intensive, I bet that has made this more attainable than for other layers in the stack. Most mistakes in UI code are also easily corre…

Yeah, I've found LLMs to be pretty decent at frontend stuff. I got a new job recently and my main task has been overhauling a Claude generated app into something functional. The backend is an unsalvageable disaster, but the frontend is actually pretty good. Which is great for me because I suck at UIs. I think if you have a solid backend already in place, an LLM can produce a pretty functional frontend with far less e…

I think that has more to do with the fact that JS is the most popular language in the world, especially available code to train LLMs on.

Backend code is far less likely to be available because it's more likely to be closed source and is spread over many languages (Java, Python, C#, JS, Ruby, Go, PHP...).

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Post by _jsmh »

monero-xmr wrote: post #51
raesene9 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't be surprised by a drop in security postings. Quite a few companies view security as an "overhead" so the siren call of reducing that overhead by introducing AI is a thing. Also for a lot of jobs in security it's pretty hard to measure how well it's being done, so if the AI based solutions are worse, that might not show up for a while

Security products and practitioners are the classic snake oil salesmen. They are actually sales and marketing roles for help closing deals by emphasizing some security aspect. True security comes from general IT practices followed by engineers themselves.

I'm a bit amazed you consistently get downvoted while you seem to speak the truth. So much gray in your comments.

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Post by tayo42 »

parineum wrote: post #87
tayo42 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The job market is terrible, pay is stagnate and remote work is being taken away and the biggest companies despite profits are laying off large amounts of people. I don't think that's fud

> the biggest companies despite profits are laying off large amounts of people. Hi is the need for employees related to profit?

The decision to layoff has side effects beyond net income on a balance sheet.
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