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Re: Floss Before Brushing

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You're right, I lost the plot. I still think it's mostly genetics, just because her hygiene and frequency of dentist visits are comparable to mine. I wish I was keeping record though, because little things can add up. I obviously placed low priority on morning brushing but on the other hand she never flosses, and here we're discussing the minute details of flossing technique.

I read an article a few years ago about what brushing actually does for your teeth and why it works. The premise was that brushing applies fluoride and removes the bacterial film that eventually turns into plaque - and that about 2 minutes of brushing a day would be sufficient if we were perfect at brushing. Doing it twice a day ensures that you get good coverage. It also went into the best brushing technique etc. Si…

I've recently realized how much technique matters, I was advised to use the modified bass technique (and also an inter-dental brush around the implant). My aggressive brushing used to cause my gums to recede, even with expensive soft toothbrushes, but I think it's improving since adopting the new technique. Sorry to hear about your painful experience. I do a lot of cycling and my greatest fear is falling and hurting my teeth. Actually, my implant is a result of me not taking out a molar that had a root canal a decade ago and was getting inflamed a lot. Should've extracted it much earlier, because the recurring inflammation ate away the bone. I was lucky they had enough bone to work with, needed to wait half a year for it to heal and grow after extraction (there is still a visible depression in the gumline). I do floss, but one minor annoyance is that it catches on these ridges where my filling are, I even managed to break a piece once, so I'm a bit more hesitant about scraping with the floss.

Re: Floss Before Brushing

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Cavities & x-rays is a check-up though, covered by my health insurance. Cleaning would be a separate session out of pocket

I don't know what to tell you. Every 6 months I go to the dentist. They do all those things. They bill my insurance. I pay whatever is left over.

Yes yes, I got it :) Was just curious about the different approaches.

Re: Floss Before Brushing

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Yeah, scrape away any built up plaque, polish, floss, check for cavities, x-rays every other visit (once a year).

Cavities & x-rays is a check-up though, covered by my health insurance. Cleaning would be a separate session out of pocket

Every checkup includes a cleaning so they're usually used interchangeably (at least everywhere I've lived in the US).

Dentists don't usually do any of the cleaning, that's the job of the dental hygienists.

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I'm surprised that this isn't self-evident. Flossing dislodges stuff from between your teeth. Brushing beforehand means you don't have an opportunity to remove that stuff.

My dentist says the opposite, since toothbrush bristles don't get between the teeth. According to her, brushing after flossing just pushes all the dislodged stuff back between the teeth. In my opinion, it doesn't really matter which you do first, as long as you rinse well after each step. I brush first - get most of it with the brush and rinse, then get the rest of it with the floss and rinse.

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Re: Floss Before Brushing

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For anyone who's curious, Reach TotalCare Floss is the best: * Very shred-resistant * Grippy, even when wet, so you don't have to turn your fingertips purple * Thin enough to fit most teeth, but supposed to have some sort of textured surface to work better

I find that regular old Reach waxed works just as well, and has two benefits over Totalcare: it's more comfortable and it's cheaper — dirt cheap for floss, really.

For me at least, traditional floss shreds and breaks. The finger-tips aspect is a deal breaker for me. Floss is such a minor expense at the end of the day, it doesn't make sense to worry about the price -- that said, the non-slippery-when-wet aspect means you can use less of Totalcare, evening out the price differential somewhat.

Re: Floss Before Brushing

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No, mouthwash after brushing removes the fluoride that the toothpaste has just deposited. Similarly, avoid rinsing after brushing. There's not really a 'good' time to use mouthwash. Maybe an hour or more after a meal, if you're in a rush - but no sooner than that, as the tooth enamel will still be softened by the food.

Even with flouride mouthwash? You're saying the paste/gel is physically more capable of depositing flouride or something?

For whatever reason, (in the US) mouthwash contains far less fluoride than toothpaste.

So, mouthwash before toothpaste. Or do as I do, and use mouthwash intermittently when in the bathroom, to boost the time there is fresh fluoride inhibiting bacteria on my teeth and gums.

Most importantly, don't rinse after either - same idea.

Re: Floss Before Brushing

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I also rinse after flossing before brushing. Then I rinse again after brushing. I also rinse throughout the day whenever I can. It's not a routine for me as much as a habit along with generally always having plenty of water to keep things moving and clean.

Rinsing after brushing removes the fluoride of toothpaste.

Even fluorided mouthwash is about 100x less fluoride than toothpaste.

Rinsing at other times is good, though.

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