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Re: Turn your 404s into lost children alerts

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post #37

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That would depend entirely on the cost of the initiative and what other things, including potentially more effective ways of rescuing kidnapped children, could be done instead.

Your answer makes me want to quit HN forever and move to the planet Mars where humans don't live.

Yeah, it sure is awful when humans are able to apply logic to figure out solutions to terrible problems.

Re: Turn your 404s into lost children alerts

#82
post #77
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would depend entirely on the cost of the initiative and what other things, including potentially more effective ways of rescuing kidnapped children, could be done instead.

That would depend entirely on the cost of the initiative and what other things, including potentially more effective ways of rescuing kidnapped children, could be done instead. No, that is incorrect. The program would be regarded as successful if it rescued one child at any cost. It is possible that there are more effective ways, but the existence of those possibilities does not preclude a less effective way of being…

The specific wording was "great success". Not merely successful, but greatly so.

Re: Turn your 404s into lost children alerts

#83
post #37

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That would depend entirely on the cost of the initiative and what other things, including potentially more effective ways of rescuing kidnapped children, could be done instead.

That would depend entirely on the cost of the initiative and what other things, Um, obviously. The point is that the cost is just about nothing, especially if your current 404 is an apache default or a joke page. Nobody is suggesting some type of moral obligation, but if a repurposed 404 does bring a missing child home, the cost was clearly worth it. including potentially more effective ways of rescuing kidnapped chi…

Opportunity costs always exist and should never be discounted. Yes, the opportunity cost for each instance is low, but it's also being spent by a whole lot of people.

Re: Turn your 404s into lost children alerts

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Or how about raising children self-confident enough to make a phone call home and demand to talk to their mother directly after a couple weeks.

And they would let him, why?

If they won't, he knows something is up. Did they never let him outside in public, never go to school, never have contact with anyone who could help?

If so, he was basically just locked in the basement, the whole thing about saying he was sent there didn't actually matter.

Re: Turn your 404s into lost children alerts

#85
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would depend entirely on the cost of the initiative and what other things, including potentially more effective ways of rescuing kidnapped children, could be done instead.

Your answer makes me want to quit HN forever and move to the planet Mars where humans don't live.

That seems rather egoistic. Can you imagine how many children could be saved for the cost of a single mars mission?

Re: Turn your 404s into lost children alerts

#87
post #27

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Please read this: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=psychology-... > When people are asked to trade their sacred values for values considered to be secular—what psychologist Philip Tetlock refers to as a “taboo tradeoff”—they exhibit moral outrage, express anger and disgust, become increasingly inflexible in negotiations, and display an insensitivity to a strict cost-benefit analysis of the exchange. W…

An interesting article about human behavior. How nice. However, I don't see a categorical disproof in there of the idea that saving lives is something worth spending time and money on, so could you take a minute and connect the dots for us plebs? Thanks.

From http://squid314.livejournal.com/260949.html: Contrary to popular belief, you can put a dollar value on human life. That dollar value is $5.8 million. Denying this leads to terrible consequences. Let me explain.

I'm guessing these 404 pages aren't at all cost-effective. The chances of saving a life are incredibly low, and the cost of implementing and maintaining them is pretty high. Also, there's value lost to users. They'll see a missing child instead of helpful navigation suggestions.

These things sound inconsequential compared to a human life, but they add up extremely quickly. Our minds can't intuitively do the math.

Re: Turn your 404s into lost children alerts

#88
post #79

The 404 page of the website doesn't display any children: http://notfound.org/404.html

Fortunately, they have a template email you can send to them:

> Copy this e-mail and send it to a friend, your ceo or your company webmaster.

> Dear www.notfound.org,

> In the European Union alone, thousands of children are still missing. They run away from conflicts at home, are the victims of parental abductions, disappear after having travelled across the EU alone, or are abducted by criminals. But there is a way you can help, namely by installing the Notfound application. By doing this, automatically, a picture of a missing child will be posted on every 404 page of your website. This is how you can help Child Focus spread a maximum number of photos and help all missing children find their way home.

> Discover the application on www.notfound.org.

Re: Turn your 404s into lost children alerts

#89
post #51

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We are talking about human lives here. If it saves one life, it's worth it. Ah, one of my favorite arguments. The good 'ol, "there is no price which is too high to save a life (period, full-stop)". Do you actually believe that? Really? Or am I just reading you wrong here?

We think human lives are priceless because we like to believe that everyone is unique. There is no warranty replacement for children born defective; nor could you replace them when they break, go missing, etc.

Looked at from one (unreasonable) level, everything is unique. Looked at from another (unreasonable) level, most humans could be replaced with other humans and very little would change.

There's no obvious-to-me level to look from where this argument applies to humans, but not to pet cats and dogs.

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