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Re: Recall for Linux

#81

Post by rpigab »

simoncion wrote: post #50
noir_lord wrote: post #27

For the first time since the 1980's I'm not going to be running a PC with a Microsoft OS on anywhere (I dual boot my main desktop since I use it for work and gaming) but the Windows 11 install is getting binned. Tired of having to read release notes carefully and make sure I've done just the right things to stop it doing things I never asked it to do. Good job MS, you lost a customer who's never likely to come back.…

> ...outside of gaming my computing life is linux... If you've games purchased through Steam, try running them on Linux with the officially-supported-and-written-for-Linux Steam client. Over the past decade+, a ton of work has been put into making games work fine under Wine and Valve's fork of Wine called Proton. I've found that nearly every game in my embarrassingly-large Steam library works fine on Linux.

Plus, Epic and Gog work through the third-party launcher "Heroic Game Launcher", for Ubisoft, EA and Blizzard, you can just install their launcher using Steam compatibility, or Lutris, then run games from it.

The major hurdle is games plagued with Windows-only Kernel-level anti cheat software (mostly competitive multiplayer games): https://areweanticheatyet.com/

Re: Recall for Linux

#82

Post by ezst »

jFriedensreich wrote: post #67

Its kind of naive satire that looks silly on second thought. Recall was not bad because of the concept but implementation details, rollout communication and of course the microsoft part. Recall by an open entity with data ownership, security and transparency would have none of those issues and its just a new take on the universal desktop search that is enabled by ai being able to utilise pixels. I refuse to be shamed…

To me it felt like just shoving more AI for the sake of it, pretending that there is a problem to solve while making no case for it, and boiling oceans along the way as an acceptable externality.

Re: Recall for Linux

#83

Post by halJordan »

ezst wrote: post #82
jFriedensreich wrote: post #67

Its kind of naive satire that looks silly on second thought. Recall was not bad because of the concept but implementation details, rollout communication and of course the microsoft part. Recall by an open entity with data ownership, security and transparency would have none of those issues and its just a new take on the universal desktop search that is enabled by ai being able to utilise pixels. I refuse to be shamed…

To me it felt like just shoving more AI for the sake of it, pretending that there is a problem to solve while making no case for it, and boiling oceans along the way as an acceptable externality.

Recall is an attempt at a solution all of us have encountered so many times in life.

Re: Recall for Linux

#84

Post by jacquesm »

noir_lord wrote: post #27

For the first time since the 1980's I'm not going to be running a PC with a Microsoft OS on anywhere (I dual boot my main desktop since I use it for work and gaming) but the Windows 11 install is getting binned. Tired of having to read release notes carefully and make sure I've done just the right things to stop it doing things I never asked it to do. Good job MS, you lost a customer who's never likely to come back.…

> but the Windows 11 install is getting binned

That makes you the best MS customer: you paid and you are not costing them anything in support.

Re: Recall for Linux

#85

Post by szszrk »

jFriedensreich wrote: post #67

Its kind of naive satire that looks silly on second thought. Recall was not bad because of the concept but implementation details, rollout communication and of course the microsoft part. Recall by an open entity with data ownership, security and transparency would have none of those issues and its just a new take on the universal desktop search that is enabled by ai being able to utilise pixels. I refuse to be shamed…

I still recall (duh) a post here from a guy who literally made a recall feature on his mac way before them. I would love to find that post...

It was screenshotting all the time, storing that locally, and then you could ask it any questions and roll back to that moment. Processing was also fully local.

Re: Recall for Linux

#86

Post by javcasas »

syntaxing wrote: post #62
athrowaway3z wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For all that it is satire, it is a lot more functional than you might realize at first glance. https://github.com/rolflobker/recall-for-linux/blob/e16382f0...

Judging from the code, I’m pretty sure this is generated by AI

Microsoft claims 30% of their code is now written by AI. So right on point.

Re: Recall for Linux

#87

Post by ac29 »

IshKebab wrote: post #61
lpln3452 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Admittedly, a distro agnostic equivalent to the PKGBUILD or Nix Flakes would have been great. But it's hard to excuse them when so many better alternatives are available. Even apps that could easily be built into a single binary use these odd installation methods. And while Flatpak gets a lot of criticism, I honestly think it's far better than these `script| bash` methods.

> Even apps that could easily be built into a single binary use these odd installation methods. Yeah because the curl bash script can deal with automatically selecting the right binary (even on Mac) and adding it to your PATH. > And while Flatpak gets a lot of criticism, I honestly think it's far better than these `script| bash` methods. I agree but does Flatpak actually work for CLI tools (which is where I see most…

> I agree but does Flatpak actually work for CLI tools (which is where I see most use of curl-bash). E.g. could I install Rust using Flatpak? My understanding was it's more suited for sandboxed GUI apps.

Distrobox is basically flatpak for CLI apps. Not exactly, but it accomplishes a similar goal.

Re: Recall for Linux

#89

Post by bee_rider »

jFriedensreich wrote: post #67

Its kind of naive satire that looks silly on second thought. Recall was not bad because of the concept but implementation details, rollout communication and of course the microsoft part. Recall by an open entity with data ownership, security and transparency would have none of those issues and its just a new take on the universal desktop search that is enabled by ai being able to utilise pixels. I refuse to be shamed…

Recall would be fine, I guess, on Linux, because we could be fairly certain it wouldn’t be slipped in under the radar. But… actually installing it seems like a pretty bad idea. Too big a target.

Re: Recall for Linux

#90

Post by drdec »

simoncion wrote: post #50
noir_lord wrote: post #27

For the first time since the 1980's I'm not going to be running a PC with a Microsoft OS on anywhere (I dual boot my main desktop since I use it for work and gaming) but the Windows 11 install is getting binned. Tired of having to read release notes carefully and make sure I've done just the right things to stop it doing things I never asked it to do. Good job MS, you lost a customer who's never likely to come back.…

> ...outside of gaming my computing life is linux... If you've games purchased through Steam, try running them on Linux with the officially-supported-and-written-for-Linux Steam client. Over the past decade+, a ton of work has been put into making games work fine under Wine and Valve's fork of Wine called Proton. I've found that nearly every game in my embarrassingly-large Steam library works fine on Linux.

> I've found that nearly every game in my embarrassingly-large Steam library works fine on Linux.

I have on occasion been scared off of buying a package from Humble Bundle when the games are available on Steam but not explicitly marked as linux. (Some of the games are marked with linux and some are not.) Are you saying I am being unnecessarily cautious?

For example, there is a "momcore" bundle at the moment where some games claim linux support and others do not, if you want to see what I'm talking about.

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